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the smoke radio

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for the masses headline edition july 8

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the army air force's has announced that

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bespoke radio

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for the

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masses

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how you doing how you doing all right

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2021

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total undisclosed location

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but it is beautiful how you doing

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all right i would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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all across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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forth up and down

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near

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i am your host jimmy church

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and i just got reports that speaker

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i'm gonna say this we are

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we're in the middle of it man all right

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all right murals jimmy church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing

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all right here we go kicking off another

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that's right had to move it and

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uh i'll get to more of it in a second i

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don't have my normal chair i've got uh

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happen so um there you go

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okay now um everything else i think i

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think we're pretty solid i think we're

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pretty good

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and uh and it's uh

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how do i say this it's a work in

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progress um

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uh i spent uh all day

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today um setting up

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and it's a lot of gear it's a lot of

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cables it's a lot of things

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and uh as you can see it's not booker

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totally uh uh this is

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this is gorilla radio yeah

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this is pretty cool it's pretty cool i'm

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really digging it

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and uh so well we'll we'll we'll get it

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all modified up and

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and we'll make it uh the bunker once

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as we move along okay but uh there you

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now kicking off this week another

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amazing week here on fade to block

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so tonight yvonne smith is back with us

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tomorrow night

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then wednesday night lucinda morrell

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is here with us for the first time

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and uh that's going to be an amazing

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show so you're going to want to

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now it's kind of weird you know is this

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like

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ladies night this week yvonne smith

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kathleen martin and lucinda morrell

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that's uh that's just amazing and then

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of course thursday night is

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another fader night uh with open lines

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to me it sounds better it's all the same

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gear

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right but it just it it's weird it's

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it's just

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sounds better yeah weird

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okay i have no idea why

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i would even say such a thing but uh

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there you go okay

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all right uh over the weekend i want to

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thank uh the dark zone

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um saturday night i was over at the lapd

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police museum

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and that was an amazing time and

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uh just a lot of interesting things

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but uh it was just amazing i want to

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thank the dark zone and

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susan slaughter she's such a great host

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and it was an amazing time on saturday

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so thank you the dark zone

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and then go to thedarkzone.tv

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and uh and check it out okay it was

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really cool we caught

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um now i've pee caught an evp

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and we were um and if you were there and

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we had a little digital recorder and

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recording and playing it back in real

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time and and

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you know there was nothing there and

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then all of a sudden pam

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right and i was telling everybody you

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know after i asked the question

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you know everybody and there it was yeah

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yeah i i think it was a female voice uh

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too

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as well man that was that was absolutely

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unbelievable my first evp

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uh very very cool all right uh coming up

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uh june 6th through the 12th i will be

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in laughlin

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nevada and for the ufo megacon

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and i want everybody to come and hang

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out with us

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it's real it's in person it's at

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the aquarius casino hotel and casino

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it's in laughlin it's going to be great

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it's a week-long june 6th through the

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and i've got some of the links up in

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social media um

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i've been down uh for uh

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four days now uh including friday

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uh saturday i was out i was uh doing

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uh the dark zone at the lapd museum

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uh yesterday tearing down uh the bunker

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today setting up the bunker and

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and getting everything i've been out i

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was supposed to get that video done

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and i didn't uh for paul uh it's

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incredible i've got it set

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up but i just didn't get anything

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so uh i promise everybody i'll get to

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the video i'll get settled in

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and i will get back to uh

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uh getting you all the information that

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you need for these conferences and

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everything else

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okay all right now remember there's only

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a 250 person limit

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at uh the ufo megacon that's

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it so all of you fade or nots get your

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tickets now

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get them now i don't want you to be

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disappointed uh if it sells out

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all right follow me on twitter at

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j church radio at j church radio follow

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me there

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and uh hashtag f2b is the sandbox it's

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live

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right in front of me i have the spreaker

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is over there i it's weird the bunker's

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flip-flopped normally everything is over

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and now uh the video and the radio feeds

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on those two

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computers are now over here and they're

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a long ways away too they're way over

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um i can see the spreaker chat is

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is active and of course there's the

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video okay

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all right yeah i gotta get all situated

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i gotta get sensated it's close though

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it's it's it's pretty close in here it's

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considering the pile of cables

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and boxes and things that i started off

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this morning

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just looking at it going oh man

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uh here we go here we go hashtag f2b is

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the sandbox

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f2bq's fade to black questions and uh

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you can also email throughout the show

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jimmy at

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jimmychurchradio.com oh um i'm looking

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and let me look at this yeah okay those

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all right i i can i can deal with that i

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was concerned about the lighting but

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uh man maybe i'm not gonna change up the

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lighting

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yeah is that the way it's looking right

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now in the bunker ben i'm i'm cool with

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i was wondering and uh because

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this is a whole nother lighting setup

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and i don't have my atomic clock

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oh that's the other thing don't have my

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atomic clock i don't know what to do i

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don't know what to do but i'll make it

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i'll make it we'll get set up all right

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let's get to the breaking news

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federal prosecutors file sex trafficking

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charges against uh and uh

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giz uh gazlane maxwell

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the former associate of jeffrey epstein

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alleging she recruited and groomed a 14

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year old girl to engage in sex

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acts with epstein as recently as 2004

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and i still don't know what to make of

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it

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unofficial satan nikes containing

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human blood one drop of human blood sold

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out in

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under a minute the limited edition you

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he says they got nothing to do with

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oh man and i had heard

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today is 71 and our dead guy's birthday

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today patty donahue

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1956 to 1996

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donahue who had been a heavy smoker most

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of her adult

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life died of lung cancer in new york

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at the age of 40. happy birthday patty

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on this day in history 1974

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mercury

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that's right because everybody in china

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in the third century had bad breath

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there you go and uh i'm being

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and the door needs to be closed

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[Laughter]

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okay uh i wanted to talk to you guys

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why we are here everything good okay

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okay

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i'm live on the air and uh

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i am there and i've got no interruptions

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very very little sleep and normally at

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uh at this stage of the game uh uh

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uh i'm fresh and ready it's not that

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kind of party tonight i

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am toasted i am so tired and i worked

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all all weekend uh going back to last

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and i haven't stopped um so anyway this

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to move from something that was

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more commercial i should say and

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in a perfect environment to

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this truly gorilla

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ground hanging and and this thing this

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vibe is is fun

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i'm i'm really looking forward to it now

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there was a a couple of things that i

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uh to get to one of the um because

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there's so many cables there's so many

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parts there's so many things

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so many little things and and

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um even with the bunker you know for

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where it's uh it evolved

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but a lot of the gear once it's plugged

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and you always need to go through and do

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a rewire

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and and just take things apart and and

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put things back together and clean it

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and do things

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i didn't do any of that i just let it

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disassembling um

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uh youtube is freezing i don't care

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um i i i can't do anything about youtube

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um everything is fine on this end

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so um that's it you guys can post

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whatever you want i

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there's nothing i can do okay

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the show has already started okay all

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okay um is uh

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um disassembling everything and putting

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everything is is cleaned uh electronic

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are are put together and it's it's a

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much better thing and

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what i am hearing is is incredible

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now uh like i said everything else will

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just get ironed out

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um um in the future and and we'll get to

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all of that

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the um the other part is why the move

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um it's uh it had to happen

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it had to happen and uh again i don't

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want anybody to freak out

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or or or things and and and rumors

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and stuff like that um but

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sometimes things have to happen and

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this is a good thing i am i am happy

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and uh the environment is cool and i

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just can't wait to uh

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uh uh get through uh not only tonight

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but to finally get some sleep and relax

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and and

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get to tomorrow

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all right oh man

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now

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tonight we have yvonne smith on the show

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and

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one one of the segments of the ufo

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community

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that is now starting to

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get the attention that it deserves our

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experiencers

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and and i know that i've uh you know

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made light of

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people of earth um over uh

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over the years it's it's it's a great

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series

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but experiencers and getting together in

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a group i've never done it i would love

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to be able to

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uh go and and sit in on

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on one of those group uh meetings

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and and seeing what that is all about i

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don't know

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if i classify myself

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as an experiencer

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what is the definition now we're gonna

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have uh yvonne smith here

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uh with us at the bottom of the hour but

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i've thought about this a lot

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and over the last six months

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this is this is a group and this is a

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part of our community

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that is is being talked about right now

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when we when we go back and we look and

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and we've got uaps and we've got the

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special report coming out and

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and that's all got a military slant

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it's a military side to things

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and they don't

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include or really care much about

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the experience or community i don't know

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what the numbers are

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and to take into account

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what so many have gone through before

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and it's

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it's at all at different levels we know

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you know close encounters

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you know uh one two three four five what

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have you

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um i don't know if i fall into that

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classification

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what hi what i have seen up in the skies

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right i have have i made direct contact

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not that i know of i had my experience

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um and i just said it right experience

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uh

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an event that i went through back in

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1995

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and i still don't know really what

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happened there

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and i don't i don't really have an

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interest

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to find out more i kind of want to

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let that experience just stay where it

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is i don't know if it's negative if it's

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positive i don't know if anything else

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happened

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i don't know i don't know any of those

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details but

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i don't know if i'm an experiencer

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would i be welcomed into one of these

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groups

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like people of earth like cyril with

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yvonne smith

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would i be welcomed what is it that

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i would say to the group hi my name is

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jamie and i had this

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uh sighting and i had another sighting

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and i had another sighting

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and and get into the sleep paralysis

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issues

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is that enough or is the group gonna go

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oh come on man

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what are you doing here right

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and then there's the other part for me

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where i have

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heard over and over again directly

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from people and witnesses that have gone

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through these things

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at what point do we go is this some kind

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of

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social enigma that people are going

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through and this is

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a psychosis is it imagination is it

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something else is

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is it a false memory is it is it caused

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from reading too much science fiction

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watching too many movies listening to

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others

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00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:27,039
staying up too late on on youtube is

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that what is causing this

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i i i just don't think so

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you know i is it half the planet i don't

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i don't know what these numbers are but

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the numbers are huge

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so we need to and this goes back to john

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mack and this goes back

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uh a ways where we need to sit

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and and discuss and try to figure out

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what is going on

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the experiencer side of this and i know

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everybody's excited about

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00:27:01,110 --> 00:27:00,559
um uh the uap task force and disclosure

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and

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uh the senate intelligence that's all

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fine

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all right we're gonna have to sit and

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wait for it

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it's the experiencer side the military

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00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:16,320
side they're gonna have the review

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they're gonna have their take and

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they're gonna say what they want

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it's it's everybody else out there you

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00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:22,640
know

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everybody

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00:27:33,269 --> 00:27:29,279
like that that has had whitley strieber

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right so there you go uh lucinda morrell

430
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is going well of course we have kathleen

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martin uh with us tomorrow night

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lucinda morrell another experiencer is

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going to be with us

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00:27:44,710 --> 00:27:43,039
on wednesday these are conversations

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that have to be had

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00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:47,279
and i will continue to push it forward

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00:27:49,350 --> 00:27:48,000
so somebody

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00:27:51,909 --> 00:27:49,360
said to me and the reason why i bring

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00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:51,919
this up jimmy are you an experiencer

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00:27:55,750 --> 00:27:54,399
and in fact yvonne asked me this a

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00:27:58,950 --> 00:27:55,760
couple of weeks ago

442
00:27:59,909 --> 00:27:58,960
i had asked if i could come and and hang

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out at a

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zero session and she looked right at me

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i don't know if i am i don't think so

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00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:16,640
maybe i'm not sure

447
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yeah yeah very strange very strange and

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00:28:26,470 --> 00:28:20,240
i

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was

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uh one other uh part that i wanted to

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00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:30,159
bring up it's really

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weird if you're in any type of

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00:28:41,750 --> 00:28:37,440
electronic document and you are

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00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:41,760
typing experiencer is not a word

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00:28:45,510 --> 00:28:44,640
you have to add it to the dictionary

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00:28:48,789 --> 00:28:45,520
right

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00:28:51,470 --> 00:28:48,799
it's not a word contact e not a word

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00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:51,480
i always thought that they were

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00:28:55,350 --> 00:28:53,039
experiencer

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seems like it should be in the

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dictionary with a clear definition right

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00:28:59,350 --> 00:28:57,760
there

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so we're going to do all of that tonight

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with yvonne let's get to this

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00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:04,240
what is an experiencer and why is it so

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important today

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changer radio network

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and kgra the planet

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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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what up this jimmychurchradio.com jimmy

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[Music]

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welcome back fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church

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and one of my favorite people yvonne

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smith

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is joining us tonight tomorrow night

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kathleen martin

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wednesday night lucinda morrell is here

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for the first time

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but tonight it's about yvonne smith ivan

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became concerned with victims of

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post-traumatic

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now tongue-tied i'm excited

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in the late 1980s and in 1990 received

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her certification from the california

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hypnosis motivation institute

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she immediately began to work with ptsd

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victims

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assisting them in encouraging them to

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work through and cope with their ptsd

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00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:25,359
now

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while maintaining personal contact with

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00:35:31,109 --> 00:35:28,560
their subjects

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00:35:32,710 --> 00:35:31,119
many were describing a pattern of alien

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00:35:35,030 --> 00:35:32,720
abduction and other close encounter

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00:35:37,670 --> 00:35:35,040
experiences then in 1991

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00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:37,680
yvonne founded ciro the close encounter

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resource

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organization since 1991 yvonne

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extensively co-lectured with harvard's

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00:35:47,990 --> 00:35:45,200
john mack

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bud hopkins david jacobs right here in

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the united states and

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at mit and several other universities

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00:35:57,430 --> 00:35:54,720
yvonne's television appearances have

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included msnbc the discovery channel the

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history channel

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montel williams show encounters

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sightings roseanne barr

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the joan rivers show and the lisa show

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she has published two books

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coronado and most recently chosen

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00:36:12,470 --> 00:36:09,359
recollections

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00:36:14,550 --> 00:36:12,480
of ufo abductions through hypnotherapy

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and her website and links are right

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there at jimmychurchradio.com

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and i would like to welcome back to fade

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to black yvonne smith

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yvonne how are you i am good jimmy how

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are you

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thank you for having me back it's uh

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it's great to hear

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course it was great to uh

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finally hang out with you once again a

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00:36:39,829 --> 00:36:37,040
couple of weeks ago after the uh crazy

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year of 2020.

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yes oh yes that was so nice

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to sit around the table like we all used

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to

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and have drinks and conversation

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that was very encouraging i think we're

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slowly getting back to normal

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although probably a new normal but

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i think i think things are looking up

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now

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yeah i agree i think uh we're we're

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taking the turn on this whole thing i

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mean it was inevitable that we

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we would eventually but i yeah i just

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feel it

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and and that being said there

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is i i kind of uh want to get straight

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to it tonight with you

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00:37:24,790 --> 00:37:23,520
um instead of going backwards and how

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00:37:27,910 --> 00:37:24,800
did you get into this

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and you know no you know what uh

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right now today and and i mentioned this

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earlier my

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my opening comments that it seems

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to me yvonne that experiencers

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are finally getting the recognition not

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only

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00:37:47,430 --> 00:37:45,520
inside of our community but but around

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00:37:48,550 --> 00:37:47,440
the world now this is a discussion that

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is starting to happen

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out in the open but before we get there

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i mean that's the vibe i'm getting it's

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the definition of an experiencer

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because what did you say to me two weeks

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ago i said

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when i asked you yvonne can i come hang

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out at zero

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and you looked right at me jimmy are you

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an

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had to really

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contemplate uh if i was or not

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but what is the definition of an

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experiencer

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00:38:30,470 --> 00:38:26,960
well you know i use the term

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abductee and experiencer interchangeably

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when i'm

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you know lecturing or talking like

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yourself on the radio show

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because some people feel that they've

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00:38:43,510 --> 00:38:39,920
been

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00:38:46,550 --> 00:38:43,520
their will

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and they're not happy about it and

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00:38:50,950 --> 00:38:48,800
they feel you know that they're not in

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00:38:55,030 --> 00:38:50,960
control of their lives

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00:38:57,910 --> 00:38:55,040
um and and they're respected for that i

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mean in my group cyril as you mentioned

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00:39:01,430 --> 00:39:00,160
everyone is on a different level with

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00:39:04,069 --> 00:39:01,440
how they handle this

686
00:39:04,950 --> 00:39:04,079
like we are we all handle grief

687
00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:04,960
differently

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i mean i just attended uh last saturday

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this past saturday

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a memorial service for one of our long

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time

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00:39:16,069 --> 00:39:15,040
serial members i mean she was with me 30

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years

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charlene and i miss her dearly

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but i just thought about you know how we

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00:39:25,109 --> 00:39:22,240
all

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00:39:27,349 --> 00:39:25,119
handle grief it's not the same we don't

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have rules on how to handle it

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00:39:30,790 --> 00:39:29,440
and it's the same with people who have

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been you know who

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had contact now i believe

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00:39:37,829 --> 00:39:36,720
my colleague and dear friend dr john

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00:39:40,950 --> 00:39:37,839
mack

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00:39:43,430 --> 00:39:40,960
coined the expression um

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00:39:44,470 --> 00:39:43,440
experiencer because he was coming across

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00:39:47,829 --> 00:39:44,480
people that

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were feeling they um were becoming more

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00:39:52,150 --> 00:39:51,000
spiritual and they had positive

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00:39:55,990 --> 00:39:52,160
experiences

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00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:56,000
so they felt that they uh were not taken

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against their will

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they were they had given permission

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so um that's why i

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i don't want to leave anyone out so i

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will use those terms interchangeably

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because i know

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after you know three decades of doing my

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work

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00:40:22,829 --> 00:40:19,520
how people will handle it so

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differently and that's why

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so i'll say okay initially

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00:40:33,510 --> 00:40:30,319
a person will be taken

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um usually in childhood

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00:40:40,309 --> 00:40:36,839
early childhood i just did

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00:40:42,710 --> 00:40:40,319
a a regression on

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00:40:44,950 --> 00:40:42,720
sisters who were taken when they were

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00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:44,960
seven and eight years old and that's not

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00:40:50,069 --> 00:40:46,480
unusual

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00:40:52,230 --> 00:40:50,079
that's the norm with all of this

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00:40:54,230 --> 00:40:52,240
the experience will follow them

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throughout their lives

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00:40:59,030 --> 00:40:57,040
it will also it may lay dormant for a

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00:41:01,030 --> 00:40:59,040
year or more

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00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:01,040
but then something else will happen so

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00:41:05,109 --> 00:41:03,119
it doesn't really go away

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00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:05,119
i can't make it go away i've asked all

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00:41:11,829 --> 00:41:08,000
the time i wish i had that power

738
00:41:13,349 --> 00:41:11,839
um then it'll affect their children and

739
00:41:16,470 --> 00:41:13,359
their children's children

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00:41:17,670 --> 00:41:16,480
i mean it's always i i interview an

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00:41:19,829 --> 00:41:17,680
individual but i'm

742
00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:19,839
speaking to their family members their

743
00:41:26,069 --> 00:41:22,800
father their mother their grandparents

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00:41:30,790 --> 00:41:26,079
so it's a lifelong experience

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00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:30,800
now at some point

746
00:41:37,109 --> 00:41:34,000
people who've been taken

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00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:37,119
will once they come to terms with what

748
00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:38,640
happened to them

749
00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:42,240
and they're you know with the help of

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00:41:47,829 --> 00:41:45,440
of therapy sessions with the uh

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00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:47,839
group sessions together those zero

752
00:41:53,510 --> 00:41:50,960
meetings and they know they're not alone

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00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:53,520
they'll start incorporating this

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00:41:58,150 --> 00:41:55,680
experience into their lives because they

755
00:41:59,990 --> 00:41:58,160
you know they they have to go to work we

756
00:42:01,109 --> 00:42:00,000
all pay bills we have to pay taxes

757
00:42:04,550 --> 00:42:01,119
unfortunately

758
00:42:08,470 --> 00:42:04,560
you know our life goes on oh sorry

759
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:08,480
my dog um life goes on so

760
00:42:17,670 --> 00:42:16,470
start looking at this on a different

761
00:42:21,109 --> 00:42:17,680
level

762
00:42:23,030 --> 00:42:21,119
and most of them i have found have

763
00:42:25,270 --> 00:42:23,040
told me you know when they've asked you

764
00:42:27,829 --> 00:42:25,280
know if you had a choice would you

765
00:42:29,190 --> 00:42:27,839
you know would you want this to not ever

766
00:42:32,470 --> 00:42:29,200
happen to you and

767
00:42:35,589 --> 00:42:32,480
many of them will say no i

768
00:42:37,109 --> 00:42:35,599
i don't i'm glad for this experience it

769
00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:37,119
has made me grow

770
00:42:44,069 --> 00:42:40,240
it's made me realize that you know i'm

771
00:42:47,270 --> 00:42:44,079
no longer living in my safety little box

772
00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:47,280
of life that there is something greater

773
00:42:56,829 --> 00:42:53,030
and you know people feel that they have

774
00:42:58,150 --> 00:42:56,839
just become a better person because of

775
00:43:01,670 --> 00:42:58,160
it

776
00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:01,680
and in this experience

777
00:43:06,950 --> 00:43:04,960
eventually they go through what i call

778
00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:06,960
the graduation period

779
00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:10,560
where once all that fear

780
00:43:14,309 --> 00:43:12,880
you know dissipates and they're taken

781
00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:14,319
time and time again

782
00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:17,359
they have found that they have been

783
00:43:25,109 --> 00:43:20,800
you know selected to

784
00:43:28,710 --> 00:43:25,119
to assist the um alien beings

785
00:43:30,870 --> 00:43:28,720
on helping other abductees coming into

786
00:43:33,190 --> 00:43:30,880
the ship calming them down

787
00:43:35,589 --> 00:43:33,200
escorting them from one place to another

788
00:43:38,710 --> 00:43:35,599
on this on the spacecraft i mean it's

789
00:43:40,790 --> 00:43:38,720
when i started discovering this i was

790
00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:40,800
amazed and these were from people who

791
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:42,480
were absolutely

792
00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:45,520
terrified in the very beginning

793
00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:48,640
does there have to be um yvonne

794
00:43:57,109 --> 00:43:52,240
an abduction component to this

795
00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:01,190
do you mean um does there have to be the

796
00:44:06,829 --> 00:44:04,400
examination right an abduction do you

797
00:44:09,510 --> 00:44:06,839
have to be taken

798
00:44:12,470 --> 00:44:09,520
right

799
00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:12,480
what i well the cases that i've come

800
00:44:16,150 --> 00:44:13,680
across

801
00:44:16,950 --> 00:44:16,160
and the reason people come to me because

802
00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:16,960
i

803
00:44:25,109 --> 00:44:24,400
have not been abducted but they've gone

804
00:44:26,790 --> 00:44:25,119
through

805
00:44:28,870 --> 00:44:26,800
trauma in their lives so they're

806
00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:28,880
suffering from ptsd

807
00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:32,240
all the symptoms are the same um so

808
00:44:38,790 --> 00:44:35,760
the people who come to me and we we go

809
00:44:42,150 --> 00:44:38,800
it through these uh regressions

810
00:44:45,190 --> 00:44:42,160
um then they will you know a typical

811
00:44:45,829 --> 00:44:45,200
scenario will come out about them being

812
00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:45,839
taken

813
00:44:49,990 --> 00:44:47,520
being escorted on the ship being on the

814
00:44:53,910 --> 00:44:50,000
table and so forth

815
00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:53,920
uh and what

816
00:44:58,150 --> 00:44:55,920
what do you mean do you mean by saying

817
00:45:01,510 --> 00:44:58,160
do they all have to be

818
00:45:03,910 --> 00:45:01,520
well for instance um yeah

819
00:45:04,790 --> 00:45:03,920
you know to have that component uh

820
00:45:08,109 --> 00:45:04,800
included

821
00:45:11,109 --> 00:45:08,119
into uh what an

822
00:45:13,990 --> 00:45:11,119
experiencer actually is

823
00:45:14,950 --> 00:45:14,000
in that uh you know because you have a

824
00:45:18,069 --> 00:45:14,960
contact e

825
00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:18,079
maybe a contact he wasn't abducted

826
00:45:23,990 --> 00:45:21,280
but maybe saw something or saw in

827
00:45:24,710 --> 00:45:24,000
an et and spoke to them but it wasn't

828
00:45:27,589 --> 00:45:24,720
you know

829
00:45:28,309 --> 00:45:27,599
on a ship or didn't get abducted against

830
00:45:31,510 --> 00:45:28,319
their will

831
00:45:32,230 --> 00:45:31,520
or or so forth you know where these

832
00:45:34,230 --> 00:45:32,240
definitions

833
00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:34,240
are because when you ask me if i was an

834
00:45:40,630 --> 00:45:36,000
experiencer

835
00:45:46,230 --> 00:45:40,640
well i i i haven't been abducted

836
00:45:48,550 --> 00:45:46,240
so does am i excluded from the party

837
00:45:50,069 --> 00:45:48,560
but do you know for a fact you haven't

838
00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:50,079
been abducted

839
00:45:53,910 --> 00:45:52,720
so i remember you shared yes well i

840
00:45:55,510 --> 00:45:53,920
don't know if i should say this on the

841
00:45:58,950 --> 00:45:55,520
air

842
00:46:01,510 --> 00:45:58,960
you can you shared

843
00:46:02,710 --> 00:46:01,520
what and i remember you shared this a

844
00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:02,720
couple years ago and

845
00:46:06,550 --> 00:46:04,079
last time i was on the show and even

846
00:46:09,349 --> 00:46:06,560
when we were talking you know um

847
00:46:09,910 --> 00:46:09,359
at one of the conferences uh you said

848
00:46:12,870 --> 00:46:09,920
what you

849
00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:12,880
remembered and it was exactly the same

850
00:46:17,510 --> 00:46:14,880
as people who experience something and

851
00:46:20,150 --> 00:46:17,520
they're not making it up or lying

852
00:46:21,589 --> 00:46:20,160
it's always the same every time you tell

853
00:46:26,069 --> 00:46:21,599
it

854
00:46:31,510 --> 00:46:26,079
that's what you remember consciously

855
00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:31,520
but there are most likely

856
00:46:37,270 --> 00:46:34,560
areas where

857
00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:37,280
we need to fill in possibly the

858
00:46:41,589 --> 00:46:38,240
subconscious

859
00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:41,599
will block out part or

860
00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:45,040
all of the traumatic experience because

861
00:46:50,630 --> 00:46:46,640
that's what it does that's

862
00:46:52,550 --> 00:46:50,640
that's its job um

863
00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:52,560
what the people that you had said you

864
00:46:56,150 --> 00:46:53,680
you talked about

865
00:46:57,430 --> 00:46:56,160
where they were contacted and plastered

866
00:47:01,030 --> 00:46:57,440
by

867
00:47:04,630 --> 00:47:01,040
you know an alien being and and

868
00:47:07,349 --> 00:47:04,640
communicated with and

869
00:47:09,829 --> 00:47:07,359
supposedly there was there was not that

870
00:47:13,190 --> 00:47:09,839
they did not have that abduction

871
00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:13,200
scenario possibly um i've

872
00:47:16,309 --> 00:47:15,359
i've spoken to many people that said you

873
00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:16,319
know i

874
00:47:34,710 --> 00:47:20,000
i

875
00:47:35,829 --> 00:47:34,720
spoken to people who approached that but

876
00:47:39,030 --> 00:47:35,839
then they

877
00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:39,040
something happened they had another

878
00:47:45,270 --> 00:47:42,160
memory or experience where they wanted

879
00:47:47,349 --> 00:47:45,280
to find out if there was something more

880
00:47:49,430 --> 00:47:47,359
to it

881
00:47:51,670 --> 00:47:49,440
still they weren't terrified or anything

882
00:47:56,150 --> 00:47:51,680
like that but it seemed to be different

883
00:48:00,069 --> 00:47:56,160
so i have taken those people into

884
00:48:03,190 --> 00:48:00,079
regression and then

885
00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:03,200
much to their surprise the

886
00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:06,800
um the typical

887
00:48:10,150 --> 00:48:09,440
abduction you know examinations uh

888
00:48:13,270 --> 00:48:10,160
taking

889
00:48:16,309 --> 00:48:13,280
or dna um

890
00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:16,319
things that happen all the time

891
00:48:25,589 --> 00:48:20,240
happen to them so

892
00:48:29,030 --> 00:48:25,599
it could be where some of these people

893
00:48:31,990 --> 00:48:29,040
don't remember that part of it

894
00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:32,000
and if they're going on with their lives

895
00:48:35,190 --> 00:48:33,280
you know it's their

896
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:35,200
functioning and they're you know raising

897
00:48:40,470 --> 00:48:37,440
their children and

898
00:48:44,309 --> 00:48:40,480
they're that's fine i i'd say

899
00:48:47,349 --> 00:48:44,319
just continue on with your life um

900
00:48:48,549 --> 00:48:47,359
they don't need my help you know the

901
00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:48,559
people that come to me

902
00:48:54,630 --> 00:48:51,599
do need my help because they are they

903
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:54,640
it's affecting their their memories you

904
00:48:57,829 --> 00:48:55,200
know

905
00:48:59,349 --> 00:48:57,839
partial memories are affecting their

906
00:49:03,030 --> 00:48:59,359
lives they're not able to

907
00:49:04,870 --> 00:49:03,040
function it's affecting their jobs

908
00:49:06,549 --> 00:49:04,880
they're having nightmares or having

909
00:49:08,710 --> 00:49:06,559
recurring dreams and

910
00:49:10,630 --> 00:49:08,720
if the people that feel they've had

911
00:49:14,549 --> 00:49:10,640
positive senses

912
00:49:17,510 --> 00:49:14,559
you know i i say that's great

913
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:17,520
go on with your life if something

914
00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:18,480
happens

915
00:49:22,950 --> 00:49:22,079
where something changes then then seek

916
00:49:25,990 --> 00:49:22,960
out help

917
00:49:27,910 --> 00:49:26,000
but otherwise uh you know i wouldn't

918
00:49:29,510 --> 00:49:27,920
open up a can of worms if you don't need

919
00:49:31,430 --> 00:49:29,520
to

920
00:49:32,549 --> 00:49:31,440
well yeah i mean i've that's always been

921
00:49:35,670 --> 00:49:32,559
my attitude

922
00:49:39,190 --> 00:49:35,680
um i i i

923
00:49:42,549 --> 00:49:39,200
i don't i i don't want to know right my

924
00:49:45,750 --> 00:49:42,559
exactly my part of it was cool

925
00:49:48,950 --> 00:49:45,760
i mean i guess it wasn't cool cool but

926
00:49:51,270 --> 00:49:48,960
it was um but i'm okay with it

927
00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:51,280
i'm okay with it aware that it the way

928
00:49:55,670 --> 00:49:52,800
that it's sitting

929
00:49:56,710 --> 00:49:55,680
and to find out that it was something

930
00:50:00,790 --> 00:49:56,720
else than what

931
00:50:03,430 --> 00:50:00,800
i remember uh i i just don't know if i

932
00:50:05,910 --> 00:50:03,440
if if i need that or if i want to go and

933
00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:05,920
pursue it but so many have

934
00:50:11,270 --> 00:50:09,280
and right right and if you don't

935
00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:11,280
if you don't want to jim if you i know

936
00:50:15,990 --> 00:50:12,400
you've told me

937
00:50:19,270 --> 00:50:16,000
this many times if you

938
00:50:20,710 --> 00:50:19,280
if you're at that point still that

939
00:50:23,589 --> 00:50:20,720
you just don't want to remember you're

940
00:50:26,790 --> 00:50:23,599
fine with what what you remembered

941
00:50:30,309 --> 00:50:26,800
yeah i'd say leave it um but

942
00:50:33,109 --> 00:50:30,319
people who have had strange like i call

943
00:50:34,069 --> 00:50:33,119
it high strangeness type experiences and

944
00:50:36,230 --> 00:50:34,079
they're

945
00:50:37,750 --> 00:50:36,240
you know they they haven't been able to

946
00:50:39,109 --> 00:50:37,760
talk about it

947
00:50:41,750 --> 00:50:39,119
they want to talk to other people who

948
00:50:43,270 --> 00:50:41,760
have had you know paranormal or just

949
00:50:45,990 --> 00:50:43,280
strangeness

950
00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:46,000
then you know i i do welcome them into

951
00:50:49,349 --> 00:50:47,520
the group i mean i have to

952
00:50:50,630 --> 00:50:49,359
screen them of course you know because

953
00:50:53,589 --> 00:50:50,640
it's always

954
00:50:55,990 --> 00:50:53,599
it's all through its private as you know

955
00:50:59,910 --> 00:50:56,000
and it's by invitation only

956
00:51:01,349 --> 00:50:59,920
um but when they speak to other people

957
00:51:03,670 --> 00:51:01,359
who have had

958
00:51:04,390 --> 00:51:03,680
strangeness in their lives they do feel

959
00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:04,400
better

960
00:51:08,790 --> 00:51:06,000
because they're not feeling like you

961
00:51:09,750 --> 00:51:08,800
know they're the only ones or did they

962
00:51:12,790 --> 00:51:09,760
make it up

963
00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:12,800
um so

964
00:51:16,230 --> 00:51:15,440
can he take me through can you take me

965
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:16,240
through this uh

966
00:51:23,670 --> 00:51:19,440
screening process how do and and

967
00:51:27,109 --> 00:51:23,680
invitation only how how do you

968
00:51:29,030 --> 00:51:27,119
um how do you find out about somebody

969
00:51:31,829 --> 00:51:29,040
and and what is that process and then

970
00:51:35,270 --> 00:51:31,839
how do you vet them

971
00:51:38,790 --> 00:51:35,280
well the members

972
00:51:40,950 --> 00:51:38,800
will ask you know can my

973
00:51:41,910 --> 00:51:40,960
co-worker come and they tell me a little

974
00:51:45,750 --> 00:51:41,920
bit of

975
00:51:48,829 --> 00:51:45,760
background about them and what happened

976
00:51:51,190 --> 00:51:48,839
um or a family member or something

977
00:51:52,630 --> 00:51:51,200
and since it's come it's as they're

978
00:51:55,750 --> 00:51:52,640
being invited by

979
00:51:56,630 --> 00:51:55,760
a family or a family while siro is a

980
00:51:59,829 --> 00:51:56,640
family

981
00:52:03,190 --> 00:51:59,839
um by a cereal member then

982
00:52:06,230 --> 00:52:03,200
they are welcome to come and and sit in

983
00:52:07,990 --> 00:52:06,240
you know as many times they'll say you

984
00:52:09,430 --> 00:52:08,000
know i don't really want to talk i just

985
00:52:10,790 --> 00:52:09,440
want to listen and see what

986
00:52:12,950 --> 00:52:10,800
happened to everybody and then

987
00:52:15,670 --> 00:52:12,960
eventually they'll start talking

988
00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:15,680
you know they just they i think they

989
00:52:20,470 --> 00:52:18,480
most of the time people want to share

990
00:52:21,750 --> 00:52:20,480
because they've not talked to anybody

991
00:52:25,190 --> 00:52:21,760
about it

992
00:52:28,069 --> 00:52:25,200
and many of the members were my

993
00:52:29,030 --> 00:52:28,079
clients who i've worked with

994
00:52:32,390 --> 00:52:29,040
individually

995
00:52:35,109 --> 00:52:32,400
in regression sessions where i know

996
00:52:36,390 --> 00:52:35,119
that i think this person would really

997
00:52:39,589 --> 00:52:36,400
benefit

998
00:52:39,910 --> 00:52:39,599
from meeting other people and that's

999
00:52:43,349 --> 00:52:39,920
where

1000
00:52:46,470 --> 00:52:43,359
members happened

1001
00:52:49,510 --> 00:52:46,480
um are the clients that i work with

1002
00:52:50,309 --> 00:52:49,520
so when when somebody is new to the

1003
00:52:54,790 --> 00:52:50,319
group

1004
00:52:58,390 --> 00:52:54,800
is pretty comfortable

1005
00:53:01,430 --> 00:52:58,400
knowing that you did your due

1006
00:53:04,870 --> 00:53:01,440
diligence before somebody

1007
00:53:08,230 --> 00:53:04,880
is going to go and sit down at the group

1008
00:53:12,870 --> 00:53:08,240
right right exactly and so we've never

1009
00:53:14,870 --> 00:53:12,880
opened it up to the public

1010
00:53:17,430 --> 00:53:14,880
or announced our meetings you know

1011
00:53:19,510 --> 00:53:17,440
online or anything like that because

1012
00:53:20,630 --> 00:53:19,520
the whole purpose of the meetings is to

1013
00:53:24,069 --> 00:53:20,640
provide

1014
00:53:27,270 --> 00:53:24,079
a private safe haven for people

1015
00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:27,280
to feel comfortable about sharing their

1016
00:53:31,990 --> 00:53:30,000
experiences

1017
00:53:35,430 --> 00:53:32,000
most of the time that's the only place

1018
00:53:39,230 --> 00:53:38,630
there's no we've never allowed audio

1019
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:39,240
taping

1020
00:53:46,230 --> 00:53:43,040
media

1021
00:53:48,470 --> 00:53:46,240
and you know it's been around for 29

1022
00:53:51,589 --> 00:53:48,480
years jimmy so

1023
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:51,599
so far so good the

1024
00:53:56,630 --> 00:53:54,640
um how big okay i'm going to talk some

1025
00:53:59,990 --> 00:53:56,640
numbers here really quick

1026
00:54:04,069 --> 00:54:00,000
um without giving away everything but

1027
00:54:06,710 --> 00:54:04,079
um how how big is ciro

1028
00:54:09,510 --> 00:54:06,720
did you expect it to get that big and

1029
00:54:11,750 --> 00:54:09,520
then the second part of the question is

1030
00:54:12,790 --> 00:54:11,760
when we're talking about experiencers

1031
00:54:15,190 --> 00:54:12,800
worldwide

1032
00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:15,200
is that number in the millions so let's

1033
00:54:19,349 --> 00:54:15,920
start with

1034
00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:23,190
oh gosh um we started

1035
00:54:31,030 --> 00:54:26,400
was six of us in my living room

1036
00:54:35,109 --> 00:54:31,040
back in you know when did i start 1992

1037
00:54:37,030 --> 00:54:35,119
but i realized um you know i didn't plan

1038
00:54:38,789 --> 00:54:37,040
on starting this worker but

1039
00:54:40,150 --> 00:54:38,799
i realized that people who were coming

1040
00:54:43,190 --> 00:54:40,160
to see me

1041
00:54:45,510 --> 00:54:43,200
were leaving my office and

1042
00:54:47,670 --> 00:54:45,520
they really didn't have anyone to talk

1043
00:54:49,910 --> 00:54:47,680
to or anywhere to go

1044
00:54:51,030 --> 00:54:49,920
and that was back then when we didn't

1045
00:54:53,910 --> 00:54:51,040
have

1046
00:54:56,549 --> 00:54:53,920
there was not no facebook or anything

1047
00:55:00,630 --> 00:54:56,559
like that online

1048
00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:00,640
we were barely coming into email

1049
00:55:05,349 --> 00:55:03,760
um that's when i was printing out all

1050
00:55:07,430 --> 00:55:05,359
the invitations

1051
00:55:10,630 --> 00:55:07,440
to the meeting and running at the post

1052
00:55:14,950 --> 00:55:10,640
office two weeks prior to each meeting

1053
00:55:17,910 --> 00:55:14,960
and sending out those invitations um

1054
00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:17,920
so we started off with six of us and

1055
00:55:21,270 --> 00:55:18,880
then

1056
00:55:23,190 --> 00:55:21,280
there were when when they established

1057
00:55:25,109 --> 00:55:23,200
their campaign and do it monthly it just

1058
00:55:28,390 --> 00:55:25,119
started growing

1059
00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:28,400
and my gosh my my living room i mean

1060
00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:30,720
people were sitting on the floor

1061
00:55:37,589 --> 00:55:34,559
um you know on the staircase

1062
00:55:40,630 --> 00:55:37,599
i think i think i had as many as 25

1063
00:55:41,990 --> 00:55:40,640
to 30 people in a meeting when people

1064
00:55:44,309 --> 00:55:42,000
found out

1065
00:55:45,829 --> 00:55:44,319
that there was a support group meeting

1066
00:55:49,190 --> 00:55:45,839
happening

1067
00:55:52,150 --> 00:55:49,200
so um eventually i had to

1068
00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:52,160
um start looking for different venues

1069
00:55:57,670 --> 00:55:53,440
because i got a divorce

1070
00:56:02,309 --> 00:55:57,680
i didn't have my house anymore and um

1071
00:56:06,630 --> 00:56:02,319
and plus i wanted to keep my home

1072
00:56:11,430 --> 00:56:09,829
and so i you know i started

1073
00:56:13,750 --> 00:56:11,440
looking for different venues so we

1074
00:56:16,950 --> 00:56:13,760
eventually found

1075
00:56:21,430 --> 00:56:16,960
two different venues for

1076
00:56:23,510 --> 00:56:21,440
people who are coming in from say

1077
00:56:24,549 --> 00:56:23,520
as far north as san francisco santa

1078
00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:24,559
barbara

1079
00:56:30,789 --> 00:56:27,760
the san fernando valley and then

1080
00:56:31,750 --> 00:56:30,799
we would switch to the next month and go

1081
00:56:33,670 --> 00:56:31,760
down to

1082
00:56:35,990 --> 00:56:33,680
the orange county areas with people

1083
00:56:37,910 --> 00:56:36,000
coming up from san diego

1084
00:56:39,270 --> 00:56:37,920
um and that's what we've been doing this

1085
00:56:42,829 --> 00:56:39,280
is we

1086
00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:42,839
uh alternate each month

1087
00:56:49,990 --> 00:56:45,760
and how big how big you know

1088
00:56:54,230 --> 00:56:50,000
yeah and how big has uh cyril gotten

1089
00:56:56,870 --> 00:56:54,240
well i mean over the years we probably

1090
00:56:59,750 --> 00:56:56,880
had a few hundred going in and out of

1091
00:57:00,150 --> 00:56:59,760
the group i mean they they don't all you

1092
00:57:03,109 --> 00:57:00,160
know

1093
00:57:03,910 --> 00:57:03,119
stay forever because they'll maybe move

1094
00:57:07,510 --> 00:57:03,920
away

1095
00:57:11,430 --> 00:57:07,520
or they you know they've

1096
00:57:15,349 --> 00:57:13,910
um but i've had people that that started

1097
00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:15,359
with me

1098
00:57:23,109 --> 00:57:18,480
many years ago that have come back

1099
00:57:26,309 --> 00:57:23,119
to the meetings so um

1100
00:57:27,750 --> 00:57:26,319
so it you know it's been over the years

1101
00:57:30,150 --> 00:57:27,760
we've had

1102
00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:30,160
i say in our venues in our the private

1103
00:57:34,150 --> 00:57:31,280
rooms that we've had

1104
00:57:34,789 --> 00:57:34,160
in um the different areas that we we

1105
00:57:37,349 --> 00:57:34,799
need in

1106
00:57:39,829 --> 00:57:37,359
we've had i think the largest meeting

1107
00:57:41,910 --> 00:57:39,839
we've had is

1108
00:57:42,870 --> 00:57:41,920
regular meeting like 25 people when we

1109
00:57:45,750 --> 00:57:42,880
have

1110
00:57:47,990 --> 00:57:45,760
the last time oh gosh last february

1111
00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:48,000
which was our last in-person meeting

1112
00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:49,040
before

1113
00:57:52,829 --> 00:57:51,520
kobe had shut everything down we had

1114
00:57:57,109 --> 00:57:52,839
about

1115
00:58:00,789 --> 00:57:57,119
35 people because we had a guest speaker

1116
00:58:03,829 --> 00:58:00,799
um kamari and run nick who

1117
00:58:05,030 --> 00:58:03,839
uh wrote a book about his his

1118
00:58:09,270 --> 00:58:05,040
experiences

1119
00:58:12,470 --> 00:58:09,280
and the this is a two brothers that have

1120
00:58:14,630 --> 00:58:12,480
been uh having contact

1121
00:58:15,670 --> 00:58:14,640
and that was our last in-person meeting

1122
00:58:18,950 --> 00:58:15,680
so

1123
00:58:20,789 --> 00:58:18,960
we we haven't met excuse me we haven't

1124
00:58:24,069 --> 00:58:20,799
met for

1125
00:58:26,230 --> 00:58:24,079
over a year we've had zoo meetings which

1126
00:58:27,510 --> 00:58:26,240
is great it's better than not meeting at

1127
00:58:29,829 --> 00:58:27,520
all

1128
00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:29,839
but we're going to attempt to have our

1129
00:58:35,430 --> 00:58:33,280
first in-person meeting again in july

1130
00:58:37,270 --> 00:58:35,440
and i cross my fingers that the covet

1131
00:58:39,750 --> 00:58:37,280
numbers still say

1132
00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:39,760
you know still say low and everything

1133
00:58:43,030 --> 00:58:42,000
moves forward because everybody misses

1134
00:58:46,069 --> 00:58:43,040
it

1135
00:58:48,870 --> 00:58:46,079
oh certainly and uh

1136
00:58:49,510 --> 00:58:48,880
the uh we're gonna head towards a break

1137
00:58:52,470 --> 00:58:49,520
right here

1138
00:58:53,430 --> 00:58:52,480
but the the meetings that that happened

1139
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well before

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2020 okay let's be clear but the the

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meetings

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um were they were they typically

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uh the same group

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month after month you know over the

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years or

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was it you know did you always have

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we've had fresh faces throughout the

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years

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um there's always the regulars which

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you know people just they love coming

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and they look forward to

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so and we still have our regulars but

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00:59:33,349 --> 00:59:30,079
it seems um oh my gosh before

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00:59:37,430 --> 00:59:33,359
kobed we had new people coming

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00:59:41,030 --> 00:59:37,440
just about every month and i'm getting

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new people seeking help

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00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:44,079
booking their sessions um

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00:59:51,910 --> 00:59:47,200
i had two of them today so i get new

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00:59:54,950 --> 00:59:51,920
maybe two or three new people a week

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um wow that's it that says something uh

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to me

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ivan yeah let's take our break let's

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take our break right here this is fade

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am your host jimmy church tonight yvonne

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the planet we'll be right back more with

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yvonne

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right after this short break stay with

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welcome back fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church our guest tonight

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yvonne smith her group is called cyro

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the close encounter resource

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organization

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and the the phenomenon

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when it comes to uh uh abductees

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contactees and and of course

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experiencers is something that is now

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uh being discussed more than it ever has

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before

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yvonne when we uh when we consider

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what we know and then what must be

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i'm taking a guess here but is it

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is it millions that have had these

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oh absolutely it's it's a world wide

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phenomena so

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definitely it's everything in the in the

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millions

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this is very widespread and

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the reason i could say that because i've

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traveled

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to different countries throughout my

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career and i have spoken with people

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even if they they couldn't speak english

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um when i would show my slide

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presentation

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resonated with them and so they would

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come up to me and

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you know have a translator with them and

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will tell me you know uh whether it was

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a

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you know th

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this definitely is worldwide

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the uh the other part of it

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uh when we're talking uh e.t

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extraterrestrials craft uh you know

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being taken on board

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and and what may happen there uh

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the experiences are as varied as the

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number of

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experiencers uh what actually happens

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but how is it

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that and this is the question that

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everybody has

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where obviously millions of people are

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going through this

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everybody can't be crazy why aren't we

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seeing this type of interaction in the

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millions

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that's that's the other part i can

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understand you know

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uh you know travis walton or or calvin

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parker

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or betty and bart you know his singular

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events

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but when we're talking about millions

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now we're talking about a phenomenon

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you know why why is it that we

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are not witness to the millions of

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abductions

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i mean there have been there are cases

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that people

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do witness um they're not the ones that

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you you know you see at conferences or

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you know

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written books because many of these

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people

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um are don't want to talk about it

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they're too stunned so there have been

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instances

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not as dramatic as travis

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or you know as as clear

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as um betty and bonnie because they were

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driving

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but you know what we're talking about

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you know why well

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of course the you know linda cortilli

1381
01:09:05,110 --> 01:09:04,239
case that bud worked on i remember he's

1382
01:09:08,070 --> 01:09:05,120
telling me this

1383
01:09:09,269 --> 01:09:08,080
early on there were witnesses to her

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01:09:12,709 --> 01:09:09,279
abduction

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and as fantastic

1386
01:09:18,390 --> 01:09:16,319
as it sounded um and i've spoken to lynn

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i've spent time with her i

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01:09:25,590 --> 01:09:21,920
i believe her i know she truly

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01:09:28,709 --> 01:09:25,600
that happened to her um but

1390
01:09:31,990 --> 01:09:28,719
you know these beings

1391
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they work in secrecy right now

1392
01:09:37,189 --> 01:09:34,719
they have an agenda they have a job to

1393
01:09:40,709 --> 01:09:37,199
do and they're doing it

1394
01:09:42,709 --> 01:09:40,719
it's going to be up to them to decide

1395
01:09:44,229 --> 01:09:42,719
if and when they're going to actually

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01:09:47,269 --> 01:09:44,239
show themselves

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01:09:49,590 --> 01:09:47,279
um so

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01:09:51,269 --> 01:09:49,600
you know so we're not seeing and we're

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01:09:53,790 --> 01:09:51,279
not hearing about

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01:09:55,669 --> 01:09:53,800
these fantastic cases all over the world

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01:09:59,350 --> 01:09:55,679
unfortunately

1402
01:10:02,550 --> 01:09:59,360
but i feel and and as other

1403
01:10:05,910 --> 01:10:02,560
abducting experiences are feeling

1404
01:10:08,149 --> 01:10:05,920
lately that we're getting close to

1405
01:10:11,590 --> 01:10:08,159
something jimmy we're getting close

1406
01:10:13,189 --> 01:10:11,600
to you know i'm not gonna i'm not gonna

1407
01:10:14,870 --> 01:10:13,199
use the word disclosure because that's

1408
01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:14,880
been thrown around so much

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01:10:18,790 --> 01:10:16,480
you know it's not gonna it's not gonna

1410
01:10:21,910 --> 01:10:18,800
be from any government

1411
01:10:25,110 --> 01:10:21,920
it's gonna happen where

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01:10:29,430 --> 01:10:25,120
nobody no government is gonna be able to

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01:10:32,709 --> 01:10:29,440
deny that they exist

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01:10:34,630 --> 01:10:32,719
or you know people have been contacted

1415
01:10:37,030 --> 01:10:34,640
and it's going to be up to it it's going

1416
01:10:39,669 --> 01:10:37,040
to be the objectives experiences coming

1417
01:10:40,470 --> 01:10:39,679
forward that's going to drive this whole

1418
01:10:43,510 --> 01:10:40,480
thing

1419
01:10:46,390 --> 01:10:43,520
because if the public knew who

1420
01:10:47,750 --> 01:10:46,400
who the caliber of people who are being

1421
01:10:49,910 --> 01:10:47,760
abducted

1422
01:10:51,669 --> 01:10:49,920
and keeping it quiet because you know

1423
01:10:53,510 --> 01:10:51,679
there's such a taboo

1424
01:10:55,350 --> 01:10:53,520
around this that they're you know afraid

1425
01:10:56,709 --> 01:10:55,360
of losing their careers and families and

1426
01:10:59,590 --> 01:10:56,719
all of this which is

1427
01:11:02,070 --> 01:10:59,600
i'm fighting until you know we don't

1428
01:11:06,470 --> 01:11:02,080
have to worry about this anymore

1429
01:11:17,030 --> 01:11:13,590
people from all walks of life

1430
01:11:19,750 --> 01:11:17,040
anybody no one's immune um

1431
01:11:23,270 --> 01:11:19,760
they show the alien beings show no

1432
01:11:27,030 --> 01:11:23,280
discrimination whatsoever

1433
01:11:29,430 --> 01:11:27,040
so we will see i mean and

1434
01:11:32,950 --> 01:11:29,440
you mentioned my latest book chosen in

1435
01:11:35,830 --> 01:11:32,960
the second part of it and that's the one

1436
01:11:37,510 --> 01:11:35,840
if anybody looks on amazon it's not the

1437
01:11:41,430 --> 01:11:37,520
black cover that's

1438
01:11:44,630 --> 01:11:41,440
my first uh work i've chosen it's the

1439
01:11:47,750 --> 01:11:44,640
second one that i did that i added to it

1440
01:11:51,189 --> 01:11:47,760
the white cover that's um on amazon

1441
01:11:54,470 --> 01:11:51,199
the second part of it the

1442
01:11:56,550 --> 01:11:54,480
urgency because i have heard from so

1443
01:11:58,149 --> 01:11:56,560
many abductees experiences who don't

1444
01:11:59,350 --> 01:11:58,159
know each other still don't know each

1445
01:12:01,110 --> 01:11:59,360
other

1446
01:12:03,270 --> 01:12:01,120
were telling me that they were feeling

1447
01:12:05,350 --> 01:12:03,280
something was coming soon and this has

1448
01:12:08,229 --> 01:12:05,360
been back about maybe

1449
01:12:09,750 --> 01:12:08,239
seven years now where they were feeling

1450
01:12:13,669 --> 01:12:09,760
something

1451
01:12:16,149 --> 01:12:13,679
and now with this this last year

1452
01:12:18,470 --> 01:12:16,159
before covid they were saying it's

1453
01:12:19,830 --> 01:12:18,480
getting closer it's ratcheting up

1454
01:12:22,310 --> 01:12:19,840
you know and i asked him well you know

1455
01:12:25,189 --> 01:12:22,320
i've asked a group of people you know

1456
01:12:27,110 --> 01:12:25,199
well is it coveted was it coveted that

1457
01:12:27,910 --> 01:12:27,120
was the urgency of course you know covet

1458
01:12:31,110 --> 01:12:27,920
came in

1459
01:12:33,510 --> 01:12:31,120
and changed our lives um

1460
01:12:34,310 --> 01:12:33,520
but they said kobit was part of it but

1461
01:12:38,149 --> 01:12:34,320
it's not

1462
01:12:40,790 --> 01:12:38,159
it so you know we have to keep our eyes

1463
01:12:44,229 --> 01:12:40,800
and ears open some you know for

1464
01:12:47,510 --> 01:12:44,239
for something happening is there um

1465
01:12:48,390 --> 01:12:47,520
uh with with people that uh reach out to

1466
01:12:55,229 --> 01:12:48,400
you

1467
01:12:57,350 --> 01:12:55,239
in activity and in in the amount of

1468
01:12:59,030 --> 01:12:57,360
experiencers that are starting to come

1469
01:13:02,709 --> 01:12:59,040
forward

1470
01:13:07,270 --> 01:13:02,719
oh yes yes i mean as i mentioned i

1471
01:13:10,709 --> 01:13:07,280
every week i get new people one

1472
01:13:12,870 --> 01:13:10,719
one two three people a week um but every

1473
01:13:17,430 --> 01:13:12,880
week i'm getting someone new

1474
01:13:19,910 --> 01:13:17,440
seeking you know my services and

1475
01:13:21,110 --> 01:13:19,920
wanting to book you know as soon as

1476
01:13:24,229 --> 01:13:21,120
possible

1477
01:13:25,430 --> 01:13:24,239
like people are telling you yeah why do

1478
01:13:28,229 --> 01:13:25,440
you think that is

1479
01:13:29,990 --> 01:13:28,239
is it because they're reading more uh

1480
01:13:31,990 --> 01:13:30,000
they're seeing stuff in the news

1481
01:13:33,910 --> 01:13:32,000
and they're starting to remember things

1482
01:13:37,830 --> 01:13:33,920
and and looking back

1483
01:13:39,430 --> 01:13:37,840
or is it you know are these contact

1484
01:13:41,910 --> 01:13:39,440
experiences

1485
01:13:43,430 --> 01:13:41,920
um happening today and you're getting

1486
01:13:44,870 --> 01:13:43,440
con you know somebody's reaching out to

1487
01:13:47,990 --> 01:13:44,880
you saying you know uh

1488
01:13:48,870 --> 01:13:48,000
uh something happened to me last week as

1489
01:13:50,630 --> 01:13:48,880
opposed to

1490
01:13:53,910 --> 01:13:50,640
something happened to me was when i was

1491
01:13:58,229 --> 01:13:53,920
15 and i'm 60 years old

1492
01:14:01,030 --> 01:13:58,239
the answer is yes all of the above

1493
01:14:01,590 --> 01:14:01,040
something happened to them many years

1494
01:14:04,229 --> 01:14:01,600
ago

1495
01:14:06,310 --> 01:14:04,239
that you know they think about the just

1496
01:14:09,750 --> 01:14:06,320
like your experience

1497
01:14:11,030 --> 01:14:09,760
jimmy you remember it it's been the same

1498
01:14:14,229 --> 01:14:11,040
that you how you remember

1499
01:14:15,750 --> 01:14:14,239
that's how they remember partial

1500
01:14:18,390 --> 01:14:15,760
what happened you know they know

1501
01:14:21,110 --> 01:14:18,400
something happened something strange

1502
01:14:21,750 --> 01:14:21,120
and then with some of them something

1503
01:14:25,990 --> 01:14:21,760
happened

1504
01:14:29,990 --> 01:14:26,000
very recently which drives them to

1505
01:14:33,510 --> 01:14:30,000
want to know even though they're scared

1506
01:14:36,550 --> 01:14:33,520
but want they want to know what is going

1507
01:14:39,030 --> 01:14:36,560
on and some of them have told me the new

1508
01:14:44,390 --> 01:14:39,040
people coming in

1509
01:14:50,310 --> 01:14:48,149
i feel like i'm supposed to

1510
01:14:52,470 --> 01:14:50,320
know what happened to me but i'm

1511
01:14:54,229 --> 01:14:52,480
supposed to do something with it i don't

1512
01:14:54,709 --> 01:14:54,239
know if i'm supposed to lecture i don't

1513
01:14:56,550 --> 01:14:54,719
know

1514
01:15:00,149 --> 01:14:56,560
if i'm supposed to write about but i'm

1515
01:15:04,630 --> 01:15:01,669
the yeah they've told me they still

1516
01:15:08,229 --> 01:15:04,640
don't know each other right right right

1517
01:15:11,669 --> 01:15:08,239
and uh the the new

1518
01:15:14,070 --> 01:15:11,679
influx which i i i see it and i

1519
01:15:15,030 --> 01:15:14,080
you know and i'm in agreement with you i

1520
01:15:18,070 --> 01:15:15,040
can kind of

1521
01:15:19,990 --> 01:15:18,080
feel something

1522
01:15:22,070 --> 01:15:20,000
where we haven't had it it wasn't like

1523
01:15:23,110 --> 01:15:22,080
this before where the experiencer

1524
01:15:26,310 --> 01:15:23,120
phenomenon

1525
01:15:28,390 --> 01:15:26,320
the people of earth side of things was

1526
01:15:30,550 --> 01:15:28,400
always in the background

1527
01:15:32,189 --> 01:15:30,560
right that was always you went to a

1528
01:15:34,390 --> 01:15:32,199
conference there was the

1529
01:15:35,669 --> 01:15:34,400
experiencers group that would get

1530
01:15:37,830 --> 01:15:35,679
together and

1531
01:15:39,590 --> 01:15:37,840
they were but you know the conference

1532
01:15:44,229 --> 01:15:39,600
itself was always

1533
01:15:47,189 --> 01:15:44,239
uh uh you know the events

1534
01:15:47,590 --> 01:15:47,199
the nuts and bolts and right yeah um you

1535
01:15:51,189 --> 01:15:47,600
know

1536
01:15:54,709 --> 01:15:51,199
sightings and things like that um

1537
01:15:58,950 --> 01:15:54,719
but i'll tell you it's the abduction

1538
01:16:02,870 --> 01:15:58,960
philosophy of gothie's experiencers

1539
01:16:07,030 --> 01:16:02,880
they're the ones they're the ones that

1540
01:16:09,110 --> 01:16:07,040
um are in the

1541
01:16:10,790 --> 01:16:09,120
middle of all this i mean those are the

1542
01:16:12,790 --> 01:16:10,800
ones

1543
01:16:14,390 --> 01:16:12,800
who are like i said before are going to

1544
01:16:17,590 --> 01:16:14,400
drive this

1545
01:16:20,630 --> 01:16:17,600
where the public's going to know

1546
01:16:23,270 --> 01:16:20,640
the government's gonna realize that they

1547
01:16:24,470 --> 01:16:23,280
you know they they have to come clean

1548
01:16:27,990 --> 01:16:24,480
now

1549
01:16:28,550 --> 01:16:28,000
and and and stop all of this foolishness

1550
01:16:32,709 --> 01:16:28,560
you know

1551
01:16:34,470 --> 01:16:32,719
in treating us like we're all idiots um

1552
01:16:36,870 --> 01:16:34,480
there that something is going to happen

1553
01:16:40,390 --> 01:16:36,880
where they're not going to be able to

1554
01:16:43,990 --> 01:16:40,400
deny it anymore what what's the

1555
01:16:47,110 --> 01:16:44,000
what's the agenda what's the agenda

1556
01:16:50,149 --> 01:16:47,120
what's the chatter on the street we have

1557
01:16:53,430 --> 01:16:50,159
uh hubridge we have the

1558
01:16:56,950 --> 01:16:53,440
david jacobs uh take on this

1559
01:16:59,910 --> 01:16:56,960
um and and other you know

1560
01:17:02,390 --> 01:16:59,920
hypothesis right they're all theories

1561
01:17:04,550 --> 01:17:02,400
what's the agenda

1562
01:17:05,990 --> 01:17:04,560
you know and and and talking about some

1563
01:17:09,350 --> 01:17:06,000
of these

1564
01:17:11,990 --> 01:17:09,360
uh you know dna programs and

1565
01:17:13,830 --> 01:17:12,000
and uh you know of course the hybrid

1566
01:17:18,229 --> 01:17:13,840
programs and the hybridization

1567
01:17:20,229 --> 01:17:18,239
things that are going what is the agenda

1568
01:17:21,270 --> 01:17:20,239
well that's the whole million dollar

1569
01:17:23,189 --> 01:17:21,280
question

1570
01:17:24,310 --> 01:17:23,199
jimmy i mean i'm asking this all the

1571
01:17:27,750 --> 01:17:24,320
time

1572
01:17:28,149 --> 01:17:27,760
um they haven't told me anything yet but

1573
01:17:31,350 --> 01:17:28,159
i'm

1574
01:17:35,110 --> 01:17:31,360
still asking them but

1575
01:17:38,470 --> 01:17:35,120
i still feel that

1576
01:17:42,070 --> 01:17:38,480
it's the abductees

1577
01:17:44,630 --> 01:17:42,080
experiencers are you know the main focus

1578
01:17:47,669 --> 01:17:44,640
the hybridization program

1579
01:17:50,870 --> 01:17:47,679
um what why

1580
01:17:54,630 --> 01:17:50,880
they're creating a hybrid writer

1581
01:17:59,430 --> 01:17:54,640
why why is this happening what you know

1582
01:18:02,630 --> 01:17:59,440
where are they all going to go

1583
01:18:03,189 --> 01:18:02,640
i don't know yet um i know my colleague

1584
01:18:07,990 --> 01:18:03,199
that

1585
01:18:09,910 --> 01:18:08,000
going to be more of a takeover

1586
01:18:11,110 --> 01:18:09,920
i believe that's what i remember reading

1587
01:18:13,510 --> 01:18:11,120
in his late

1588
01:18:14,229 --> 01:18:13,520
last book the um walk in among us i

1589
01:18:17,270 --> 01:18:14,239
think it is

1590
01:18:19,750 --> 01:18:17,280
yes um let me talk to me about a couple

1591
01:18:23,669 --> 01:18:19,760
of the cases in there but

1592
01:18:25,510 --> 01:18:23,679
i'm you know i'm hoping that it's not

1593
01:18:29,350 --> 01:18:25,520
going to be the case

1594
01:18:33,030 --> 01:18:29,360
uh i think they still need us

1595
01:18:37,189 --> 01:18:33,040
they you know for our material of

1596
01:18:40,310 --> 01:18:37,199
our dna uh how we can reproduce

1597
01:18:43,430 --> 01:18:40,320
and but you know

1598
01:18:44,229 --> 01:18:43,440
the thing is now um i just talked to

1599
01:18:45,990 --> 01:18:44,239
somebody

1600
01:18:47,669 --> 01:18:46,000
not too long ago about this about 20

1601
01:18:51,110 --> 01:18:47,679
years ago

1602
01:18:54,870 --> 01:18:51,120
i couldn't even say this but

1603
01:18:58,709 --> 01:18:54,880
i've had people tell me that they

1604
01:19:02,390 --> 01:18:58,719
were sure that they spoke to

1605
01:19:05,750 --> 01:19:02,400
and met a hybrid here

1606
01:19:08,550 --> 01:19:05,760
um and so

1607
01:19:10,149 --> 01:19:08,560
i feel that they are here that have been

1608
01:19:12,950 --> 01:19:10,159
here

1609
01:19:13,910 --> 01:19:12,960
they don't look any different from you

1610
01:19:16,070 --> 01:19:13,920
or i you know we

1611
01:19:17,270 --> 01:19:16,080
like the weekend we all spent together

1612
01:19:20,950 --> 01:19:17,280
talking

1613
01:19:23,030 --> 01:19:20,960
having drinks i mean the hybrids could

1614
01:19:26,630 --> 01:19:23,040
have been in that hotel

1615
01:19:30,070 --> 01:19:26,640
and we wouldn't have known it until

1616
01:19:31,830 --> 01:19:30,080
it says and talk to them and it's

1617
01:19:33,669 --> 01:19:31,840
something in their eyes where they could

1618
01:19:34,950 --> 01:19:33,679
see right through you there's something

1619
01:19:38,390 --> 01:19:34,960
different about that

1620
01:19:40,390 --> 01:19:38,400
or they can read your mind um

1621
01:19:43,030 --> 01:19:40,400
that that's where the difference is but

1622
01:19:44,870 --> 01:19:43,040
when if you're walking by them

1623
01:19:47,110 --> 01:19:44,880
you know they're standing next to you at

1624
01:19:50,390 --> 01:19:47,120
the check-in counter

1625
01:19:53,350 --> 01:19:50,400
you know anywhere

1626
01:19:55,189 --> 01:19:53,360
you're really not going to notice

1627
01:19:57,189 --> 01:19:55,199
they've improved so much

1628
01:19:58,630 --> 01:19:57,199
since you know we first started talking

1629
01:20:02,229 --> 01:19:58,640
about them

1630
01:20:05,910 --> 01:20:02,239
30 years ago so

1631
01:20:06,709 --> 01:20:05,920
uh what you know what the end game is

1632
01:20:09,030 --> 01:20:06,719
here

1633
01:20:11,270 --> 01:20:09,040
jimmy i think we're all going to find

1634
01:20:16,310 --> 01:20:11,280
out together

1635
01:20:22,629 --> 01:20:19,590
right yeah in that this visitation has

1636
01:20:24,629 --> 01:20:22,639
got to have gone on for hundreds of

1637
01:20:28,310 --> 01:20:24,639
thousands of years this isn't a

1638
01:20:31,110 --> 01:20:28,320
a new phenomenon right so aren't we

1639
01:20:33,110 --> 01:20:31,120
all uh at the end of the day aren't we

1640
01:20:35,110 --> 01:20:33,120
all hybrids

1641
01:20:36,229 --> 01:20:35,120
right and so if they were visiting now

1642
01:20:39,750 --> 01:20:36,239
and continuing

1643
01:20:42,390 --> 01:20:39,760
well i don't know why

1644
01:20:44,390 --> 01:20:42,400
we feel that we should notice them or

1645
01:20:47,189 --> 01:20:44,400
that they should look any different

1646
01:20:47,669 --> 01:20:47,199
when this has probably been going on

1647
01:20:49,750 --> 01:20:47,679
since

1648
01:20:50,790 --> 01:20:49,760
the very beginning homo sapiens sapien's

1649
01:20:54,070 --> 01:20:50,800
been here for 200

1650
01:20:56,950 --> 01:20:54,080
000 years that's it not any longer

1651
01:20:57,830 --> 01:20:56,960
and we just appeared here 200 000 years

1652
01:20:59,510 --> 01:20:57,840
ago

1653
01:21:01,189 --> 01:20:59,520
and when you just look at that part of

1654
01:21:04,870 --> 01:21:01,199
the science uh

1655
01:21:08,070 --> 01:21:04,880
yvonne it says to me somebody messed

1656
01:21:11,590 --> 01:21:08,080
with this 200 000 years ago

1657
01:21:14,950 --> 01:21:11,600
yeah sure i've heard that siri

1658
01:21:17,830 --> 01:21:14,960
um all i know is that since i've been

1659
01:21:20,550 --> 01:21:17,840
studying this i've been in the in this

1660
01:21:23,990 --> 01:21:20,560
for three decades now

1661
01:21:27,590 --> 01:21:24,000
back about 30 years ago if they had

1662
01:21:31,030 --> 01:21:27,600
placed hybrids here on earth

1663
01:21:34,229 --> 01:21:31,040
we would have noticed them you know

1664
01:21:38,550 --> 01:21:34,239
they with the with the wispy hair

1665
01:21:39,030 --> 01:21:38,560
and the larger than regular human eyes

1666
01:21:42,390 --> 01:21:39,040
and

1667
01:21:44,070 --> 01:21:42,400
very very thin bodies

1668
01:21:46,390 --> 01:21:44,080
we would have noticed them and i think

1669
01:21:49,750 --> 01:21:46,400
that's why they didn't do that

1670
01:21:52,229 --> 01:21:49,760
you know nobody had said to me over the

1671
01:21:55,030 --> 01:21:52,239
years that they saw somebody like that

1672
01:21:56,149 --> 01:21:55,040
they would have been very noticeable so

1673
01:21:59,110 --> 01:21:56,159
um

1674
01:22:00,629 --> 01:21:59,120
they've improved over the many years and

1675
01:22:03,669 --> 01:22:00,639
that's where i think

1676
01:22:05,510 --> 01:22:03,679
where david decided from his cases to

1677
01:22:09,830 --> 01:22:05,520
write this book

1678
01:22:12,629 --> 01:22:09,840
um and you know

1679
01:22:13,590 --> 01:22:12,639
his his clients have come across these

1680
01:22:16,790 --> 01:22:13,600
hybrids and

1681
01:22:20,629 --> 01:22:16,800
teach them how to live here

1682
01:22:23,189 --> 01:22:20,639
among us um is there something to be

1683
01:22:24,629 --> 01:22:23,199
you know i just you know i just listened

1684
01:22:26,149 --> 01:22:24,639
to your comments about this is there

1685
01:22:29,189 --> 01:22:26,159
something to be afraid of

1686
01:22:31,430 --> 01:22:29,199
if you listen to david jacobs and

1687
01:22:32,870 --> 01:22:31,440
we all have and he's been a guest on

1688
01:22:35,990 --> 01:22:32,880
this show of course

1689
01:22:39,590 --> 01:22:36,000
um but he

1690
01:22:42,470 --> 01:22:39,600
he scares the crap out of me

1691
01:22:43,350 --> 01:22:42,480
you know what i mean if you listen right

1692
01:22:45,270 --> 01:22:43,360
and if you

1693
01:22:47,910 --> 01:22:45,280
if you listen to his words and he

1694
01:22:49,189 --> 01:22:47,920
doesn't mess around he's very direct

1695
01:22:53,270 --> 01:22:49,199
about this

1696
01:22:55,990 --> 01:22:53,280
um but he comes from a position

1697
01:22:56,709 --> 01:22:56,000
of uh of something that we should be

1698
01:22:59,030 --> 01:22:56,719
afraid of

1699
01:23:00,390 --> 01:22:59,040
something that we should be fearful of

1700
01:23:03,110 --> 01:23:00,400
should we be fearful

1701
01:23:04,550 --> 01:23:03,120
is there something to be afraid of well

1702
01:23:07,990 --> 01:23:04,560
but

1703
01:23:11,189 --> 01:23:08,000
you know the thing is is that

1704
01:23:14,629 --> 01:23:11,199
we don't know we don't know

1705
01:23:16,550 --> 01:23:14,639
what their end game is what their agenda

1706
01:23:20,470 --> 01:23:16,560
is why are they doing this

1707
01:23:23,669 --> 01:23:20,480
um not at this point

1708
01:23:24,550 --> 01:23:23,679
nobody has the answer so i think we

1709
01:23:28,149 --> 01:23:24,560
could rest

1710
01:23:30,229 --> 01:23:28,159
well by saying that david doesn't have

1711
01:23:30,790 --> 01:23:30,239
the answers either i respect him i love

1712
01:23:35,030 --> 01:23:30,800
him

1713
01:23:37,669 --> 01:23:35,040
you know but that's his theory

1714
01:23:39,110 --> 01:23:37,679
and from you know what he studied from

1715
01:23:40,629 --> 01:23:39,120
his cases and what he

1716
01:23:42,310 --> 01:23:40,639
has come up with that's why he wrote the

1717
01:23:44,950 --> 01:23:42,320
book but i

1718
01:23:46,470 --> 01:23:44,960
i still tell people if someone is

1719
01:23:48,790 --> 01:23:46,480
telling you

1720
01:23:51,110 --> 01:23:48,800
they know the answers this is what's

1721
01:23:54,470 --> 01:23:51,120
going to happen

1722
01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:54,480
run the other way because they no one

1723
01:24:01,270 --> 01:23:55,040
knows

1724
01:24:03,110 --> 01:24:01,280
and so whoever's listening out out there

1725
01:24:05,910 --> 01:24:03,120
to this show

1726
01:24:06,709 --> 01:24:05,920
you know i don't want them walking

1727
01:24:10,229 --> 01:24:06,719
around

1728
01:24:14,390 --> 01:24:10,239
being fearful of living their life

1729
01:24:16,070 --> 01:24:14,400
because you know just because someone

1730
01:24:17,510 --> 01:24:16,080
says something and they wrote a book

1731
01:24:19,910 --> 01:24:17,520
about it does not mean

1732
01:24:20,629 --> 01:24:19,920
that's the answer well i'm not being

1733
01:24:23,430 --> 01:24:20,639
disrespectful

1734
01:24:24,870 --> 01:24:23,440
no and and and i know that you're not

1735
01:24:28,390 --> 01:24:24,880
and but

1736
01:24:32,629 --> 01:24:28,400
there's another part to this and we can

1737
01:24:35,430 --> 01:24:32,639
continue after uh after the break but

1738
01:24:36,310 --> 01:24:35,440
is there i keep going back to people of

1739
01:24:39,430 --> 01:24:36,320
earth

1740
01:24:40,629 --> 01:24:39,440
is there and it's a great show and and

1741
01:24:45,590 --> 01:24:40,639
it makes you laugh

1742
01:24:47,669 --> 01:24:45,600
but do like in your group for instance

1743
01:24:48,950 --> 01:24:47,679
are those that take this a little bit

1744
01:24:51,910 --> 01:24:48,960
too seriously

1745
01:24:52,550 --> 01:24:51,920
where we can't joke about it we can't

1746
01:24:55,110 --> 01:24:52,560
that this

1747
01:24:57,590 --> 01:24:55,120
is something that needs to be absolutely

1748
01:25:00,950 --> 01:24:57,600
taken seriously and it should

1749
01:25:03,510 --> 01:25:00,960
right but but that

1750
01:25:05,510 --> 01:25:03,520
you know what i mean it it is a very

1751
01:25:08,070 --> 01:25:05,520
very serious subject

1752
01:25:10,550 --> 01:25:08,080
and we aren't allowed to step out of

1753
01:25:13,350 --> 01:25:10,560
bounds with it

1754
01:25:15,669 --> 01:25:13,360
oh no i think laughter is the best

1755
01:25:17,750 --> 01:25:15,679
medicine in whatever situation

1756
01:25:19,110 --> 01:25:17,760
i mean in our in our support group means

1757
01:25:21,270 --> 01:25:19,120
we've had

1758
01:25:22,790 --> 01:25:21,280
so much fun and so much laughter i mean

1759
01:25:23,990 --> 01:25:22,800
who wants to come to a meeting every

1760
01:25:27,350 --> 01:25:24,000
month when everybody's

1761
01:25:28,470 --> 01:25:27,360
depressed and sad i mean nobody wants to

1762
01:25:31,750 --> 01:25:28,480
do that i mean

1763
01:25:32,550 --> 01:25:31,760
it's just you know we we laugh at

1764
01:25:35,510 --> 01:25:32,560
ourselves

1765
01:25:36,070 --> 01:25:35,520
and and that's what makes it fun so you

1766
01:25:37,910 --> 01:25:36,080
know

1767
01:25:40,310 --> 01:25:37,920
there's there's been other shows there's

1768
01:25:45,110 --> 01:25:40,320
been commercials you know

1769
01:25:48,709 --> 01:25:48,070
you know with a comedic flair to it

1770
01:25:50,790 --> 01:25:48,719
where

1771
01:25:51,750 --> 01:25:50,800
you know you laugh about aliens and so

1772
01:25:54,550 --> 01:25:51,760
forth

1773
01:25:57,030 --> 01:25:54,560
no i mean i think laughter is is

1774
01:25:57,510 --> 01:25:57,040
wonderful it lightens everything up it's

1775
01:26:01,110 --> 01:25:57,520
still

1776
01:26:04,390 --> 01:26:01,120
no matter what

1777
01:26:07,830 --> 01:26:04,400
you know it doesn't make it go away

1778
01:26:08,550 --> 01:26:07,840
are you um after doing this as you just

1779
01:26:11,669 --> 01:26:08,560
mentioned for

1780
01:26:13,430 --> 01:26:11,679
three decades now um are you still

1781
01:26:14,950 --> 01:26:13,440
surprised

1782
01:26:17,990 --> 01:26:14,960
do you have somebody show up at the

1783
01:26:23,030 --> 01:26:18,000
meeting and go all right

1784
01:26:26,310 --> 01:26:23,040
that i haven't heard before

1785
01:26:30,310 --> 01:26:26,320
most of the time it's it's

1786
01:26:33,110 --> 01:26:30,320
what i have heard hundreds of times

1787
01:26:34,830 --> 01:26:33,120
there's been a few instances where

1788
01:26:37,990 --> 01:26:34,840
something was a little bit

1789
01:26:39,430 --> 01:26:38,000
different um so with when that happens

1790
01:26:42,229 --> 01:26:39,440
it's like okay make it

1791
01:26:43,590 --> 01:26:42,239
a note of it kind of put it on the back

1792
01:26:45,669 --> 01:26:43,600
burner

1793
01:26:47,030 --> 01:26:45,679
and see if i hear it again and again

1794
01:26:48,870 --> 01:26:47,040
just like i did with

1795
01:26:51,110 --> 01:26:48,880
the cases i started working with 30

1796
01:26:52,709 --> 01:26:51,120
years ago that's when it you know that's

1797
01:26:54,310 --> 01:26:52,719
when i think okay

1798
01:26:56,390 --> 01:26:54,320
you know i'm going to put this abduction

1799
01:26:57,669 --> 01:26:56,400
scenario together and that's how i

1800
01:27:00,149 --> 01:26:57,679
created my

1801
01:27:02,550 --> 01:27:00,159
my lecture you know because i had so

1802
01:27:05,430 --> 01:27:02,560
many cases with similarities

1803
01:27:06,550 --> 01:27:05,440
and you know the drawings and pictures

1804
01:27:09,030 --> 01:27:06,560
and so forth were all

1805
01:27:11,430 --> 01:27:09,040
very similar but there's always

1806
01:27:13,669 --> 01:27:11,440
something that could come up

1807
01:27:15,750 --> 01:27:13,679
that could be just out of left field but

1808
01:27:18,950 --> 01:27:15,760
that doesn't mean

1809
01:27:22,070 --> 01:27:18,960
it didn't happen because you know

1810
01:27:22,470 --> 01:27:22,080
i mean we're really dealing with you

1811
01:27:26,629 --> 01:27:22,480
know a

1812
01:27:30,229 --> 01:27:26,639
very complex subject

1813
01:27:31,669 --> 01:27:30,239
so i just you know i just listen and

1814
01:27:33,590 --> 01:27:31,679
see when people come up with something

1815
01:27:34,310 --> 01:27:33,600
like that something out of left field

1816
01:27:42,390 --> 01:27:34,320
they're still

1817
01:27:43,910 --> 01:27:42,400
with other cases so

1818
01:27:46,870 --> 01:27:43,920
something something sometimes

1819
01:27:50,149 --> 01:27:46,880
something's just a little bit different

1820
01:27:54,470 --> 01:27:50,159
the uh uh the moment

1821
01:27:56,709 --> 01:27:54,480
that we get some

1822
01:27:58,470 --> 01:27:56,719
official confirmation no matter where it

1823
01:28:00,149 --> 01:27:58,480
comes from it could come from the sky it

1824
01:28:01,430 --> 01:28:00,159
could be a mass sighting it could

1825
01:28:03,669 --> 01:28:01,440
come from the government it could be

1826
01:28:05,030 --> 01:28:03,679
anything but the moment that that

1827
01:28:08,070 --> 01:28:05,040
happens

1828
01:28:10,149 --> 01:28:08,080
are we going to see uh

1829
01:28:11,830 --> 01:28:10,159
a huge amount of people now coming

1830
01:28:12,950 --> 01:28:11,840
forward that wouldn't have come forward

1831
01:28:14,950 --> 01:28:12,960
before

1832
01:28:17,590 --> 01:28:14,960
and then the other part the vindication

1833
01:28:18,070 --> 01:28:17,600
part see i told you this happened to me

1834
01:28:21,110 --> 01:28:18,080
i

1835
01:28:24,390 --> 01:28:21,120
you know

1836
01:28:25,350 --> 01:28:24,400
but but now this is showing that my

1837
01:28:27,910 --> 01:28:25,360
experience

1838
01:28:28,470 --> 01:28:27,920
was real i think that creates another

1839
01:28:32,550 --> 01:28:28,480
problem

1840
01:28:38,550 --> 01:28:32,560
in of itself right where we're gonna get

1841
01:28:45,750 --> 01:28:43,270
oh i think i'd be able to weed them out

1842
01:28:46,629 --> 01:28:45,760
because you know you've developed a

1843
01:28:49,270 --> 01:28:46,639
sixth sense

1844
01:28:50,790 --> 01:28:49,280
over the three decades that i've spoken

1845
01:28:53,110 --> 01:28:50,800
to a couple of

1846
01:28:55,270 --> 01:28:53,120
homicide detectives where they they

1847
01:28:58,390 --> 01:28:55,280
develop a sixth sense and they can

1848
01:29:01,750 --> 01:28:58,400
feel and tell someone's lying to them

1849
01:29:03,669 --> 01:29:01,760
you know you just kind of develop that

1850
01:29:04,950 --> 01:29:03,679
i don't know what it is okay you know

1851
01:29:07,270 --> 01:29:04,960
what okay okay

1852
01:29:09,990 --> 01:29:07,280
okay yvonne you don't have to name i'm

1853
01:29:11,189 --> 01:29:10,000
not asking you to call anybody out but

1854
01:29:14,310 --> 01:29:11,199
did you have

1855
01:29:15,830 --> 01:29:14,320
that experience where somebody has

1856
01:29:16,950 --> 01:29:15,840
contacted you and you're going through

1857
01:29:18,870 --> 01:29:16,960
and you're going through it and they're

1858
01:29:20,870 --> 01:29:18,880
expecting to be and then

1859
01:29:22,229 --> 01:29:20,880
um and then you've had to go you know

1860
01:29:26,709 --> 01:29:22,239
what ah

1861
01:29:31,830 --> 01:29:26,719
cyril may not be for you and you had to

1862
01:29:37,990 --> 01:29:35,510
yeah usually i've been able to

1863
01:29:40,070 --> 01:29:38,000
weed them out before they even come in

1864
01:29:43,990 --> 01:29:40,080
for a session

1865
01:29:45,510 --> 01:29:44,000
um by what they fill out the

1866
01:29:47,910 --> 01:29:45,520
what they put on the questionnaires i

1867
01:29:49,590 --> 01:29:47,920
sent out two questionnaires

1868
01:29:51,350 --> 01:29:49,600
uh having the conversation with them on

1869
01:29:53,189 --> 01:29:51,360
the phone asking about their family

1870
01:29:56,470 --> 01:29:53,199
history

1871
01:29:58,149 --> 01:29:56,480
um there were a couple times over the

1872
01:30:00,149 --> 01:29:58,159
years not very many i could count

1873
01:30:03,030 --> 01:30:00,159
probably on one hand where

1874
01:30:03,990 --> 01:30:03,040
somebody had you know they thought it

1875
01:30:07,830 --> 01:30:04,000
was a

1876
01:30:09,590 --> 01:30:07,840
vivid dream and something you know there

1877
01:30:12,550 --> 01:30:09,600
are taking notes and this happened and

1878
01:30:15,910 --> 01:30:12,560
that happened and i put him in hypnosis

1879
01:30:19,270 --> 01:30:15,920
and you know just waiting to see

1880
01:30:21,510 --> 01:30:19,280
what came forward and really it was

1881
01:30:22,950 --> 01:30:21,520
you know i was going to see if they were

1882
01:30:24,629 --> 01:30:22,960
blocked i was trying to get through the

1883
01:30:27,030 --> 01:30:24,639
block but

1884
01:30:28,870 --> 01:30:27,040
you know where i had to say it sounds

1885
01:30:30,310 --> 01:30:28,880
like you know this just could have been

1886
01:30:33,830 --> 01:30:30,320
a dream

1887
01:30:34,870 --> 01:30:33,840
um but i could tell that really before

1888
01:30:38,229 --> 01:30:34,880
that happens

1889
01:30:41,430 --> 01:30:38,239
um i guess i mentioned by

1890
01:30:42,629 --> 01:30:41,440
their family history and what happened

1891
01:30:44,470 --> 01:30:42,639
to them you know

1892
01:30:46,870 --> 01:30:44,480
since they were you know back in

1893
01:30:48,310 --> 01:30:46,880
childhood i want to continue this when

1894
01:30:50,870 --> 01:30:48,320
we come back after the break

1895
01:30:51,750 --> 01:30:50,880
i i don't know if somebody would be

1896
01:30:55,270 --> 01:30:51,760
relieved

1897
01:30:59,189 --> 01:30:55,280
with that news coming from you like okay

1898
01:31:01,270 --> 01:30:59,199
or right

1899
01:31:02,310 --> 01:31:01,280
our guest tonight yvonne smith i'm your

1900
01:31:03,669 --> 01:31:02,320
host jimmy church

1901
01:31:19,350 --> 01:31:03,679
we'll be right back after this short

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01:31:25,590 --> 01:31:22,470
way out here we listen to jimmy church

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01:31:27,430 --> 01:31:25,600
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[Music]

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01:33:51,990 --> 01:33:47,189
you are listening to fate to black with

1950
01:33:55,590 --> 01:33:54,550
hi i'm rhys evans you're listening to

1951
01:33:58,790 --> 01:33:55,600
jimmy church

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01:34:00,070 --> 01:33:58,800
this is revolution the revolution will

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01:34:18,570 --> 01:34:00,080
not be televised

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01:34:47,189 --> 01:34:18,580
the revolution is on radio ciao

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01:34:50,950 --> 01:34:48,870
welcome back fade to black i am your

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01:34:51,430 --> 01:34:50,960
host jimmy church tonight yvonne smith

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01:34:53,669 --> 01:34:51,440
is here

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01:34:54,950 --> 01:34:53,679
more with yvonne in just a second i want

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01:34:57,510 --> 01:34:54,960
to talk to you about virtual

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01:34:59,270 --> 01:34:57,520
vpn as you can see we've got a new

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01:35:03,590 --> 01:34:59,280
studio the bunker

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01:35:07,270 --> 01:35:03,600
has been moved we are seriously gorilla

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01:35:11,189 --> 01:35:07,280
and right now virtual shield vpn

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01:35:13,510 --> 01:35:11,199
is what is keeping me private

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01:35:15,910 --> 01:35:13,520
got to do it and it was it was great

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01:35:18,950 --> 01:35:15,920
today fired up all of the computers

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01:35:20,070 --> 01:35:18,960
uh here and got everything that first

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01:35:22,310 --> 01:35:20,080
thing that popped up

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01:35:23,350 --> 01:35:22,320
virtual shield and said okay you've got

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01:35:26,390 --> 01:35:23,360
a new location you've got

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01:35:30,550 --> 01:35:26,400
this that is everything it's just

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church our guest tonight the one and

1997
01:36:31,430 --> 01:36:28,159
only yvonne smith

1998
01:36:34,470 --> 01:36:31,440
and now yvonne um this is this

1999
01:36:35,830 --> 01:36:34,480
is the question that you probably answer

2000
01:36:38,550 --> 01:36:35,840
the most

2001
01:36:39,990 --> 01:36:38,560
but it needs to be asked and and for the

2002
01:36:42,149 --> 01:36:40,000
audience tonight

2003
01:36:43,430 --> 01:36:42,159
there's all that you know all the talk

2004
01:36:45,750 --> 01:36:43,440
out there about

2005
01:36:47,350 --> 01:36:45,760
a regression and this type of therapy

2006
01:36:50,390 --> 01:36:47,360
and hypnosis

2007
01:36:53,830 --> 01:36:50,400
that sometimes uh

2008
01:36:57,270 --> 01:36:53,840
the therapists is accused of asking

2009
01:36:58,310 --> 01:36:57,280
leading questions guiding guiding

2010
01:37:00,709 --> 01:36:58,320
someone

2011
01:37:02,390 --> 01:37:00,719
into these experiences that's that's an

2012
01:37:04,950 --> 01:37:02,400
issue that needs to constantly be

2013
01:37:08,550 --> 01:37:04,960
addressed isn't it

2014
01:37:11,830 --> 01:37:08,560
oh yeah i mean i've heard it all um

2015
01:37:12,709 --> 01:37:11,840
unfortunately there's always the bad

2016
01:37:16,470 --> 01:37:12,719
apples

2017
01:37:19,990 --> 01:37:16,480
you know um that could ruin it for

2018
01:37:23,030 --> 01:37:20,000
others possibly therapists

2019
01:37:23,350 --> 01:37:23,040
that are not trained in doing this work

2020
01:37:27,270 --> 01:37:23,360
or

2021
01:37:34,470 --> 01:37:30,709
but you have to pose the questions

2022
01:37:37,350 --> 01:37:34,480
very carefully and

2023
01:37:39,910 --> 01:37:37,360
not lead you know when i pose a question

2024
01:37:43,430 --> 01:37:39,920
i'll wait for the answer

2025
01:37:45,669 --> 01:37:43,440
and anyone can listen to any of my

2026
01:37:46,709 --> 01:37:45,679
sessions because i record everything and

2027
01:37:49,270 --> 01:37:46,719
even my

2028
01:37:51,109 --> 01:37:49,280
clients over the years said my god you

2029
01:37:53,030 --> 01:37:51,119
know i was listening to my session you

2030
01:37:54,950 --> 01:37:53,040
hardly say anything

2031
01:37:56,950 --> 01:37:54,960
you know i'll just put a question out

2032
01:37:59,030 --> 01:37:56,960
and wait for them to answer

2033
01:38:00,310 --> 01:37:59,040
to give me the answer then i'd repeat

2034
01:38:03,750 --> 01:38:00,320
back if they say

2035
01:38:06,950 --> 01:38:03,760
you know i'm in a blue light white

2036
01:38:08,310 --> 01:38:06,960
uh blue white blue light you know it's

2037
01:38:10,229 --> 01:38:08,320
very bright

2038
01:38:11,750 --> 01:38:10,239
and then i will repeat that okay you

2039
01:38:14,390 --> 01:38:11,760
know tell me what

2040
01:38:15,109 --> 01:38:14,400
were the sources of the blue white light

2041
01:38:18,470 --> 01:38:15,119
you know

2042
01:38:22,070 --> 01:38:18,480
i don't say now you see a light

2043
01:38:25,830 --> 01:38:22,080
right on the alien ship right

2044
01:38:27,590 --> 01:38:25,840
on the alien ship and you're going up

2045
01:38:30,149 --> 01:38:27,600
so i mean i'm joking about this but i

2046
01:38:30,950 --> 01:38:30,159
just heard that you know all these years

2047
01:38:34,870 --> 01:38:30,960
that

2048
01:38:38,470 --> 01:38:34,880
oh you know it all hypnotherapists are

2049
01:38:42,550 --> 01:38:38,480
leading people into you know having a

2050
01:38:45,990 --> 01:38:42,560
experience and um

2051
01:38:47,030 --> 01:38:46,000
it's it's just not true for people who

2052
01:38:49,109 --> 01:38:47,040
are

2053
01:38:50,470 --> 01:38:49,119
properly trained i mean i went through

2054
01:38:53,830 --> 01:38:50,480
college

2055
01:38:56,870 --> 01:38:53,840
to get my certification then i

2056
01:38:57,990 --> 01:38:56,880
was lucky enough to observe some of bud

2057
01:39:00,629 --> 01:38:58,000
hopkins

2058
01:39:01,030 --> 01:39:00,639
sessions i mean he became my mentor i

2059
01:39:04,870 --> 01:39:01,040
was

2060
01:39:07,990 --> 01:39:04,880
just very very fortunate um

2061
01:39:09,990 --> 01:39:08,000
and now in this october well i had a

2062
01:39:10,950 --> 01:39:10,000
book for last october but i had to

2063
01:39:15,109 --> 01:39:10,960
cancel

2064
01:39:17,030 --> 01:39:15,119
the therapy training sessions that i

2065
01:39:18,229 --> 01:39:17,040
have set up because of cobit i had to

2066
01:39:21,430 --> 01:39:18,239
cancel everything

2067
01:39:24,629 --> 01:39:21,440
i'm now setting them up again for

2068
01:39:27,910 --> 01:39:24,639
this october for therapists who

2069
01:39:31,109 --> 01:39:27,920
are interested in doing this work

2070
01:39:32,390 --> 01:39:31,119
and um i because you know when i go to

2071
01:39:33,830 --> 01:39:32,400
conferences i

2072
01:39:35,669 --> 01:39:33,840
have therapists come up to me all the

2073
01:39:38,790 --> 01:39:35,679
time say how do i do

2074
01:39:40,950 --> 01:39:38,800
your work how do i you know learn how to

2075
01:39:44,070 --> 01:39:40,960
do this so

2076
01:39:46,470 --> 01:39:44,080
i decided you know this is

2077
01:39:48,550 --> 01:39:46,480
i i feel the urgency in getting people

2078
01:39:50,709 --> 01:39:48,560
trained i would love to have

2079
01:39:53,030 --> 01:39:50,719
a therapist or several therapists in all

2080
01:39:55,910 --> 01:39:53,040
50 of our states and i think

2081
01:39:56,709 --> 01:39:55,920
as you mentioned earlier when something

2082
01:39:58,390 --> 01:39:56,719
happens

2083
01:39:59,750 --> 01:39:58,400
you know people are going to come out of

2084
01:40:01,109 --> 01:39:59,760
the word work saying yeah yeah that

2085
01:40:02,229 --> 01:40:01,119
happened to me

2086
01:40:04,870 --> 01:40:02,239
and they're going to they're going to

2087
01:40:06,310 --> 01:40:04,880
need help you know they're going to need

2088
01:40:08,070 --> 01:40:06,320
answers they want to they're going to

2089
01:40:12,070 --> 01:40:08,080
want to know exactly what happened

2090
01:40:13,189 --> 01:40:12,080
to them so if anyone is listening out

2091
01:40:15,430 --> 01:40:13,199
there right now

2092
01:40:17,830 --> 01:40:15,440
you're uh you're a therapist you have

2093
01:40:21,590 --> 01:40:17,840
your practice you already know

2094
01:40:22,470 --> 01:40:21,600
you have the mechanics of hypnosis then

2095
01:40:24,229 --> 01:40:22,480
um

2096
01:40:26,629 --> 01:40:24,239
you know email me and i'll send you the

2097
01:40:28,310 --> 01:40:26,639
information

2098
01:40:30,470 --> 01:40:28,320
there's only going to be a few sloths

2099
01:40:33,990 --> 01:40:30,480
because we're doing it in my

2100
01:40:38,149 --> 01:40:34,000
colleague kim's chapman's office

2101
01:40:40,629 --> 01:40:38,159
and so um it's going to be very uh

2102
01:40:42,470 --> 01:40:40,639
we're only going to allow so many to be

2103
01:40:43,189 --> 01:40:42,480
able to register i'm not sure the

2104
01:40:46,709 --> 01:40:43,199
capacity

2105
01:40:49,590 --> 01:40:46,719
yet but if this is successful i'm all

2106
01:40:50,709 --> 01:40:49,600
i will schedule another one because you

2107
01:40:54,070 --> 01:40:50,719
know thinking about

2108
01:40:57,109 --> 01:40:54,080
jimmy bud hopkins is gone

2109
01:40:57,590 --> 01:40:57,119
john mack you know is gone dear friend

2110
01:41:01,270 --> 01:40:57,600
who

2111
01:41:04,790 --> 01:41:01,280
i also lectured with david

2112
01:41:07,590 --> 01:41:04,800
is is now not doing much because

2113
01:41:09,030 --> 01:41:07,600
i remember he few years ago he was

2114
01:41:12,790 --> 01:41:09,040
worried about his failing

2115
01:41:17,030 --> 01:41:12,800
um memory and

2116
01:41:18,310 --> 01:41:17,040
so i'm thinking oh my god you know

2117
01:41:21,030 --> 01:41:18,320
we've got to get more people i've got to

2118
01:41:24,470 --> 01:41:21,040
get more people trained

2119
01:41:27,510 --> 01:41:24,480
you have to you you absolutely have to

2120
01:41:30,229 --> 01:41:27,520
and uh there's another part to this too

2121
01:41:32,310 --> 01:41:30,239
as well uh you know that that bud and

2122
01:41:35,669 --> 01:41:32,320
john aren't with us um

2123
01:41:39,030 --> 01:41:35,679
any longer there was something about

2124
01:41:41,510 --> 01:41:39,040
bud that impressed me

2125
01:41:42,790 --> 01:41:41,520
and to this day when i think of bud

2126
01:41:46,470 --> 01:41:42,800
hopkins

2127
01:41:49,189 --> 01:41:46,480
i don't think of bud as the nice guy

2128
01:41:49,590 --> 01:41:49,199
now let me finish okay before that's

2129
01:41:56,390 --> 01:41:49,600
okay

2130
01:41:59,750 --> 01:41:56,400
want bs and

2131
01:42:02,550 --> 01:41:59,760
those that perpetrate it inside of the

2132
01:42:06,950 --> 01:42:02,560
ufo community we had enough issues

2133
01:42:08,629 --> 01:42:06,960
to deal with and he was steadfast in in

2134
01:42:12,149 --> 01:42:08,639
calling people out

2135
01:42:12,390 --> 01:42:12,159
you know and and he did not appreciate

2136
01:42:15,590 --> 01:42:12,400
it

2137
01:42:18,070 --> 01:42:15,600
and and that we need more of that in the

2138
01:42:21,030 --> 01:42:18,080
ufo community too as well we need

2139
01:42:23,270 --> 01:42:21,040
we do need the therapist but we need

2140
01:42:26,709 --> 01:42:23,280
people with buds attitude

2141
01:42:29,910 --> 01:42:26,719
he was willing to uh to not only

2142
01:42:31,750 --> 01:42:29,920
stand up for the ufo community but but

2143
01:42:33,350 --> 01:42:31,760
call out when it needed to be mentioned

2144
01:42:34,310 --> 01:42:33,360
because so many people don't want to

2145
01:42:37,990 --> 01:42:34,320
talk about that

2146
01:42:40,229 --> 01:42:38,000
aspect of it oh yeah uh well

2147
01:42:41,990 --> 01:42:40,239
those of us who've been in this field

2148
01:42:45,430 --> 01:42:42,000
long enough know

2149
01:42:45,830 --> 01:42:45,440
you know there are the charlatans or all

2150
01:42:50,470 --> 01:42:45,840
the

2151
01:42:52,470 --> 01:42:50,480
that are

2152
01:42:53,990 --> 01:42:52,480
that come into this field for all the

2153
01:42:55,750 --> 01:42:54,000
wrong reasons

2154
01:42:57,189 --> 01:42:55,760
they're gonna be rich and famous and

2155
01:42:59,430 --> 01:42:57,199
whatever else

2156
01:43:00,550 --> 01:42:59,440
they tend to weed themselves out i've

2157
01:43:04,149 --> 01:43:00,560
seen it

2158
01:43:05,990 --> 01:43:04,159
um so you know i don't tend to worry

2159
01:43:09,430 --> 01:43:06,000
about that part of it

2160
01:43:10,709 --> 01:43:09,440
um you know i have enough on my plate

2161
01:43:17,189 --> 01:43:10,719
with

2162
01:43:18,149 --> 01:43:17,199
for help and and keeping our support

2163
01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:18,159
group together

2164
01:43:22,790 --> 01:43:21,210
because that's really important so um

2165
01:43:25,750 --> 01:43:22,800
[Music]

2166
01:43:26,709 --> 01:43:25,760
i don't know we'll we'll probably have

2167
01:43:29,910 --> 01:43:26,719
people like

2168
01:43:33,189 --> 01:43:29,920
know call people out but

2169
01:43:40,390 --> 01:43:33,199
for the right reasons you know not not

2170
01:43:43,990 --> 01:43:42,790
blaming somebody that shouldn't be

2171
01:43:47,750 --> 01:43:44,000
blaming you know all of that

2172
01:43:51,030 --> 01:43:47,760
so i i i don't get into any of that

2173
01:43:53,669 --> 01:43:51,040
you know bless bud's heart

2174
01:43:54,950 --> 01:43:53,679
i mean he had me there's a couple times

2175
01:43:57,189 --> 01:43:54,960
where i was just like man it's getting

2176
01:44:00,390 --> 01:43:57,199
hot in here

2177
01:44:01,189 --> 01:44:00,400
buddy playing around um i know what

2178
01:44:03,750 --> 01:44:01,199
you're saying

2179
01:44:06,310 --> 01:44:03,760
yeah i'm not gonna go there right now

2180
01:44:09,669 --> 01:44:06,320
there's no reason to do it but uh

2181
01:44:11,590 --> 01:44:09,679
bud bud bud was the sheriff

2182
01:44:12,709 --> 01:44:11,600
he was the sheriff yeah you don't want

2183
01:44:15,750 --> 01:44:12,719
to mess with bud

2184
01:44:18,149 --> 01:44:15,760
um um now

2185
01:44:19,189 --> 01:44:18,159
um i want to talk about hypnosis for a

2186
01:44:22,950 --> 01:44:19,199
second um

2187
01:44:25,189 --> 01:44:22,960
there was i had one experience

2188
01:44:26,629 --> 01:44:25,199
um i don't think i've ever talked about

2189
01:44:29,669 --> 01:44:26,639
it before on the air

2190
01:44:31,510 --> 01:44:29,679
but um i had a friend that was a a

2191
01:44:34,790 --> 01:44:31,520
therapist that was part of our

2192
01:44:36,149 --> 01:44:34,800
group of uh partiers back in the uh uh

2193
01:44:40,229 --> 01:44:36,159
early 80s

2194
01:44:43,430 --> 01:44:40,239
and and he said oh yeah i can uh

2195
01:44:46,790 --> 01:44:43,440
i can hypnotize anybody and

2196
01:44:49,430 --> 01:44:46,800
i said okay all right let's go

2197
01:44:49,910 --> 01:44:49,440
and and i said you can do it right now

2198
01:44:53,510 --> 01:44:49,920
yes

2199
01:44:56,070 --> 01:44:53,520
in the room

2200
01:44:56,550 --> 01:44:56,080
that were there to witness this and and

2201
01:44:59,830 --> 01:44:56,560
i

2202
01:45:03,430 --> 01:44:59,840
the couch and

2203
01:45:06,149 --> 01:45:03,440
went through it yvonne it didn't happen

2204
01:45:07,750 --> 01:45:06,159
it didn't happen and i i don't know if

2205
01:45:09,350 --> 01:45:07,760
it was me and i've heard people talk

2206
01:45:13,830 --> 01:45:09,360
about this before

2207
01:45:14,470 --> 01:45:13,840
is it can i is it just my reluctance to

2208
01:45:18,790 --> 01:45:14,480
it

2209
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:18,800
not even reluctance but inside of my

2210
01:45:22,310 --> 01:45:21,090
how do i say this uh

2211
01:45:25,030 --> 01:45:22,320
[Music]

2212
01:45:26,870 --> 01:45:25,040
where maybe i'm skeptical you know is

2213
01:45:28,870 --> 01:45:26,880
there something deep seated in me that

2214
01:45:31,990 --> 01:45:28,880
won't allow me to be hypnotized

2215
01:45:35,030 --> 01:45:32,000
or can you regret can get

2216
01:45:37,030 --> 01:45:35,040
is do you have a fail-safe method can

2217
01:45:41,830 --> 01:45:37,040
you get jimmy church on the couch

2218
01:45:44,950 --> 01:45:41,840
and i am going to be hypnotized

2219
01:45:47,910 --> 01:45:44,960
uh you don't as i was

2220
01:45:48,310 --> 01:45:47,920
going through school for this i learned

2221
01:45:51,590 --> 01:45:48,320
that

2222
01:45:52,390 --> 01:45:51,600
anyone can be hypnotized anyway i've had

2223
01:45:55,830 --> 01:45:52,400
the most

2224
01:45:57,830 --> 01:45:55,840
difficult clients who were very

2225
01:45:59,830 --> 01:45:57,840
um not skeptical it wasn't that it was

2226
01:46:00,709 --> 01:45:59,840
just they were used to being in control

2227
01:46:02,470 --> 01:46:00,719
i've had people who

2228
01:46:04,870 --> 01:46:02,480
own their own companies they're always

2229
01:46:06,470 --> 01:46:04,880
in control but they wanted to know what

2230
01:46:10,310 --> 01:46:06,480
happened to them

2231
01:46:13,750 --> 01:46:10,320
um and finally they were able to

2232
01:46:15,669 --> 01:46:13,760
get into a relaxed state and i figure if

2233
01:46:16,470 --> 01:46:15,679
i can do some of those people i can get

2234
01:46:18,470 --> 01:46:16,480
them

2235
01:46:19,910 --> 01:46:18,480
hypnotized i can do anybody i could do

2236
01:46:23,030 --> 01:46:19,920
jimmy church

2237
01:46:25,830 --> 01:46:23,040
um but it just depends

2238
01:46:27,669 --> 01:46:25,840
on well you were in that you were not in

2239
01:46:30,629 --> 01:46:27,679
the right situation

2240
01:46:32,149 --> 01:46:30,639
you were at with a group of people

2241
01:46:33,510 --> 01:46:32,159
almost like you know you were gonna be

2242
01:46:36,550 --> 01:46:33,520
on display

2243
01:46:37,669 --> 01:46:36,560
right well that's not gonna work right

2244
01:46:40,070 --> 01:46:37,679
um unless you

2245
01:46:41,030 --> 01:46:40,080
had decided okay you know i'm going to

2246
01:46:43,669 --> 01:46:41,040
trust him

2247
01:46:44,229 --> 01:46:43,679
and you're just going to let yourself go

2248
01:46:48,550 --> 01:46:44,239
but

2249
01:46:52,470 --> 01:46:48,560
um i'm not surprised it didn't work

2250
01:46:53,430 --> 01:46:52,480
but it's that when people come in to see

2251
01:46:58,310 --> 01:46:53,440
me

2252
01:47:01,430 --> 01:46:58,320
never been hypnotized before

2253
01:47:03,590 --> 01:47:01,440
and then and then we're you know we're

2254
01:47:07,350 --> 01:47:03,600
looking into

2255
01:47:09,350 --> 01:47:07,360
you know something very strange

2256
01:47:10,470 --> 01:47:09,360
and we don't know what's going to happen

2257
01:47:12,229 --> 01:47:10,480
you know i don't know what's going to

2258
01:47:15,270 --> 01:47:12,239
happen at each session

2259
01:47:20,229 --> 01:47:15,280
but they they come in with the intention

2260
01:47:23,270 --> 01:47:20,239
of i'm i want answers i want to know

2261
01:47:25,109 --> 01:47:23,280
and there's always resistance

2262
01:47:26,629 --> 01:47:25,119
in the beginning and it's nothing the

2263
01:47:30,229 --> 01:47:26,639
person consciously

2264
01:47:33,270 --> 01:47:30,239
does it's just that you know

2265
01:47:35,669 --> 01:47:33,280
this experience

2266
01:47:36,550 --> 01:47:35,679
and then going through regression isn't

2267
01:47:40,550 --> 01:47:36,560
what we call

2268
01:47:43,109 --> 01:47:40,560
unknown in the subconscious mind

2269
01:47:44,950 --> 01:47:43,119
is it something that the person is used

2270
01:47:49,030 --> 01:47:44,960
to doing or knowing

2271
01:47:52,310 --> 01:47:49,040
so when the unknowns happen the

2272
01:47:56,470 --> 01:47:52,320
the subconscious will block it

2273
01:47:59,189 --> 01:47:56,480
um as well as a person having resistance

2274
01:47:59,590 --> 01:47:59,199
but once that breaks you know once and

2275
01:48:03,990 --> 01:47:59,600
that

2276
01:48:09,109 --> 01:48:04,000
it has to do with gaining rapport

2277
01:48:12,310 --> 01:48:09,119
knowing that um oh my gosh

2278
01:48:14,229 --> 01:48:12,320
um did you hear that car i'm sorry is

2279
01:48:16,550 --> 01:48:14,239
somebody speeding down i hope it wasn't

2280
01:48:20,149 --> 01:48:16,560
an accident anyway sorry about that

2281
01:48:22,950 --> 01:48:20,159
um it startled me yes uh

2282
01:48:23,510 --> 01:48:22,960
i'm sorry no i i i heard a little

2283
01:48:27,109 --> 01:48:23,520
something

2284
01:48:30,390 --> 01:48:27,119
in in the background but how deep

2285
01:48:33,590 --> 01:48:30,400
okay okay how how where did i leave off

2286
01:48:37,510 --> 01:48:33,600
um uh the willingness uh to come in some

2287
01:48:40,629 --> 01:48:37,520
fight it some don't okay so

2288
01:48:42,470 --> 01:48:40,639
once the report is established

2289
01:48:44,070 --> 01:48:42,480
once they know they're in safe hands i'm

2290
01:48:46,229 --> 01:48:44,080
not gonna use

2291
01:48:48,229 --> 01:48:46,239
drugs i'm not gonna make them i'm not

2292
01:48:50,550 --> 01:48:48,239
gonna control their mind

2293
01:48:53,350 --> 01:48:50,560
make them do something that's gonna

2294
01:48:55,430 --> 01:48:53,360
embarrass them i explain all that

2295
01:48:57,590 --> 01:48:55,440
before we even start the hypnosis i

2296
01:49:00,470 --> 01:48:57,600
dispel all the myths

2297
01:49:01,270 --> 01:49:00,480
about hypnosis and it you know it's up

2298
01:49:02,709 --> 01:49:01,280
to them if they

2299
01:49:04,229 --> 01:49:02,719
if they want to say well you know i

2300
01:49:05,350 --> 01:49:04,239
changed my mind no thank you they could

2301
01:49:08,149 --> 01:49:05,360
walk up my

2302
01:49:09,430 --> 01:49:08,159
door but they're there because they they

2303
01:49:13,510 --> 01:49:09,440
really want to know

2304
01:49:15,669 --> 01:49:13,520
and so after the first session which i

2305
01:49:18,550 --> 01:49:15,679
always tell everybody is the most

2306
01:49:19,830 --> 01:49:18,560
difficult once we get through that

2307
01:49:22,870 --> 01:49:19,840
hurdle

2308
01:49:26,470 --> 01:49:22,880
as they come in more they become more

2309
01:49:29,109 --> 01:49:26,480
um conditioned to

2310
01:49:30,709 --> 01:49:29,119
the hypnosis state they they become

2311
01:49:32,470 --> 01:49:30,719
conditioned to my voice they start

2312
01:49:35,510 --> 01:49:32,480
feeling comfortable

2313
01:49:36,229 --> 01:49:35,520
sometimes the first session floodgates

2314
01:49:38,550 --> 01:49:36,239
open

2315
01:49:39,990 --> 01:49:38,560
i mean everything starts coming out

2316
01:49:43,270 --> 01:49:40,000
because the person's waited

2317
01:49:46,629 --> 01:49:43,280
so long and they they

2318
01:49:48,790 --> 01:49:46,639
start feeling you know they're able to

2319
01:49:50,629 --> 01:49:48,800
to verbalize what's what's happening

2320
01:49:52,629 --> 01:49:50,639
even though they think oh my god

2321
01:49:54,550 --> 01:49:52,639
you know when they like bring them out

2322
01:49:57,589 --> 01:49:54,560
of hypnosis they

2323
01:50:00,709 --> 01:49:57,599
mainly say god dad did i make that up

2324
01:50:02,149 --> 01:50:00,719
you know how could that happen and then

2325
01:50:04,470 --> 01:50:02,159
other times

2326
01:50:05,189 --> 01:50:04,480
i come across blocks you know then we

2327
01:50:06,709 --> 01:50:05,199
have to try to go

2328
01:50:09,990 --> 01:50:06,719
get through the block and i always ask

2329
01:50:12,310 --> 01:50:10,000
the person do you want to continue

2330
01:50:14,070 --> 01:50:12,320
or do you want to come out and most the

2331
01:50:16,470 --> 01:50:14,080
time people will say no no i

2332
01:50:18,149 --> 01:50:16,480
i want to know i want to know and so i'm

2333
01:50:20,390 --> 01:50:18,159
working with them that's why i set aside

2334
01:50:23,669 --> 01:50:20,400
two hours for each session jimmy

2335
01:50:25,189 --> 01:50:23,679
because wow it is a process i sit and

2336
01:50:26,950 --> 01:50:25,199
talk to them first

2337
01:50:28,229 --> 01:50:26,960
we go into the hypnosis which could i

2338
01:50:29,589 --> 01:50:28,239
don't know how long it's going to last

2339
01:50:31,910 --> 01:50:29,599
could be 10 minutes could be an

2340
01:50:33,189 --> 01:50:31,920
hour and then we'd do the debriefing

2341
01:50:36,470 --> 01:50:33,199
afterwards

2342
01:50:38,070 --> 01:50:36,480
so um it

2343
01:50:39,750 --> 01:50:38,080
like i said it's it's a process but

2344
01:50:41,589 --> 01:50:39,760
anybody really

2345
01:50:43,270 --> 01:50:41,599
anybody can be hypnotized but if you

2346
01:50:45,350 --> 01:50:43,280
come in my office and say oh yeah i'm

2347
01:50:46,310 --> 01:50:45,360
not going to be hypnotized well of

2348
01:50:47,910 --> 01:50:46,320
course then you're not going to be

2349
01:50:51,109 --> 01:50:47,920
hypnotized

2350
01:50:51,990 --> 01:50:51,119
exactly now is it and i i i don't want

2351
01:50:54,470 --> 01:50:52,000
to make fun

2352
01:50:56,229 --> 01:50:54,480
or make light of this but you can laugh

2353
01:50:59,830 --> 01:50:56,239
if you want though okay

2354
01:51:03,109 --> 01:50:59,840
um we've all seen you know uh

2355
01:51:05,589 --> 01:51:03,119
the dude you know with the uh with this

2356
01:51:06,870 --> 01:51:05,599
with the pocket watch on a chain right

2357
01:51:10,149 --> 01:51:06,880
you are getting very

2358
01:51:14,870 --> 01:51:10,159
sleepy and it's just out right

2359
01:51:18,709 --> 01:51:14,880
um is that is that

2360
01:51:21,030 --> 01:51:18,719
urban legend no

2361
01:51:23,109 --> 01:51:21,040
that's called eye fascination and you

2362
01:51:25,850 --> 01:51:23,119
know what i don't use that in adults

2363
01:51:27,750 --> 01:51:25,860
i wasn't oh you use it on children

2364
01:51:30,629 --> 01:51:27,760
[Laughter]

2365
01:51:31,350 --> 01:51:30,639
yeah children okay okay all right but

2366
01:51:34,790 --> 01:51:31,360
sometimes

2367
01:51:37,030 --> 01:51:34,800
don't

2368
01:51:38,070 --> 01:51:37,040
hypnotize very young children and when

2369
01:51:40,790 --> 01:51:38,080
it's you know

2370
01:51:41,830 --> 01:51:40,800
when they're underage then of course i

2371
01:51:45,189 --> 01:51:41,840
have to get the

2372
01:51:48,470 --> 01:51:45,199
parents approval but i've used it

2373
01:51:49,669 --> 01:51:48,480
a few times and it does work really i

2374
01:51:52,950 --> 01:51:49,679
don't use it

2375
01:51:55,270 --> 01:51:52,960
i always thought that was hollywood

2376
01:51:56,229 --> 01:51:55,280
well hollywood does it i mean it's you

2377
01:51:59,510 --> 01:51:56,239
know

2378
01:52:02,709 --> 01:51:59,520
um that's how they show

2379
01:52:06,550 --> 01:52:02,719
hidden it it's very dramatic it is well

2380
01:52:09,830 --> 01:52:06,560
and that but back to uh

2381
01:52:12,229 --> 01:52:09,840
back to my thought here um how

2382
01:52:14,070 --> 01:52:12,239
deep because going back to you're

2383
01:52:17,109 --> 01:52:14,080
getting very sleepy right

2384
01:52:20,709 --> 01:52:17,119
okay there are um and what we

2385
01:52:23,189 --> 01:52:20,719
typically see is somebody that is

2386
01:52:24,310 --> 01:52:23,199
completely disconnected now that is deep

2387
01:52:27,990 --> 01:52:24,320
in it they have

2388
01:52:29,350 --> 01:52:28,000
no idea about what's going on right bark

2389
01:52:33,109 --> 01:52:29,360
like a dog or

2390
01:52:36,470 --> 01:52:33,119
you know whatever and um how deep

2391
01:52:39,270 --> 01:52:36,480
do your sessions go with your clients

2392
01:52:39,910 --> 01:52:39,280
how do they remember or is this

2393
01:52:41,750 --> 01:52:39,920
conscious

2394
01:52:44,310 --> 01:52:41,760
saying are they aware of their

2395
01:52:48,550 --> 01:52:44,320
surroundings or

2396
01:52:53,990 --> 01:52:48,560
is it is it is you know is it deeper

2397
01:52:56,470 --> 01:52:54,000
you know there is some amnesia

2398
01:52:58,390 --> 01:52:56,480
when someone is hypnotized when they

2399
01:53:00,390 --> 01:52:58,400
they're very deep

2400
01:53:02,229 --> 01:53:00,400
and that's why i record all the sessions

2401
01:53:05,030 --> 01:53:02,239
and i've had people

2402
01:53:06,870 --> 01:53:05,040
listen to their teeth where i go oh my

2403
01:53:08,470 --> 01:53:06,880
god i don't remember saying that but

2404
01:53:09,910 --> 01:53:08,480
obviously i did

2405
01:53:12,629 --> 01:53:09,920
you know because they they don't

2406
01:53:15,669 --> 01:53:12,639
remember everything they were very

2407
01:53:18,229 --> 01:53:15,679
um but not to the point where

2408
01:53:19,350 --> 01:53:18,239
well when you talk about when people

2409
01:53:21,990 --> 01:53:19,360
think about

2410
01:53:22,550 --> 01:53:22,000
oh bark like a dog and quack like a duck

2411
01:53:25,589 --> 01:53:22,560
i mean

2412
01:53:26,070 --> 01:53:25,599
that's stage hypnosis and the people

2413
01:53:28,310 --> 01:53:26,080
that you

2414
01:53:30,310 --> 01:53:28,320
see up there on the stage are the people

2415
01:53:34,629 --> 01:53:30,320
that really want to be up there

2416
01:53:38,830 --> 01:53:34,639
you know and um they

2417
01:53:46,550 --> 01:53:40,149
hypno

2418
01:53:47,589 --> 01:53:46,560
test the audience you know your arm is

2419
01:53:49,109 --> 01:53:47,599
getting stiffer

2420
01:53:50,870 --> 01:53:49,119
and it's raising up or you're not going

2421
01:53:53,030 --> 01:53:50,880
to be able to let it down and

2422
01:53:54,950 --> 01:53:53,040
and so they choose the people that their

2423
01:53:56,310 --> 01:53:54,960
arm is way up in the air and they can't

2424
01:53:57,750 --> 01:53:56,320
get it down because they're not going to

2425
01:53:59,750 --> 01:53:57,760
choose the people that

2426
01:54:01,669 --> 01:53:59,760
that didn't happen their arms are on the

2427
01:54:03,109 --> 01:54:01,679
table because they would be duds on

2428
01:54:05,350 --> 01:54:03,119
stage

2429
01:54:06,870 --> 01:54:05,360
you know but it's totally different you

2430
01:54:08,550 --> 01:54:06,880
know we can't compare what i do

2431
01:54:10,950 --> 01:54:08,560
to stage hypnosis i've asked

2432
01:54:13,189 --> 01:54:10,960
entertainment believe me jimmy if i had

2433
01:54:15,840 --> 01:54:13,199
gone into stage hypnosis after i

2434
01:54:21,109 --> 01:54:15,850
graduated i would be making as you would

2435
01:54:27,030 --> 01:54:24,709
start working with cancer patients so

2436
01:54:27,990 --> 01:54:27,040
um but but like a theory is sub-amnesia

2437
01:54:30,229 --> 01:54:28,000
while someone's

2438
01:54:33,030 --> 01:54:30,239
hypnotized but because we're dealing

2439
01:54:35,750 --> 01:54:33,040
with the stronger part of the mind

2440
01:54:37,669 --> 01:54:35,760
which is the subconscious mind which

2441
01:54:40,950 --> 01:54:37,679
makes up 80

2442
01:54:44,070 --> 01:54:40,960
of the total mind power people will

2443
01:54:47,270 --> 01:54:44,080
hear things even sharper they'll hear

2444
01:54:47,750 --> 01:54:47,280
my voice they'll they'll hear themselves

2445
01:54:50,709 --> 01:54:47,760
talk

2446
01:54:51,990 --> 01:54:50,719
um i that's i tell you know i tell

2447
01:54:54,709 --> 01:54:52,000
people don't wear anything

2448
01:54:56,550 --> 01:54:54,719
constricting where's you know where

2449
01:54:57,510 --> 01:54:56,560
sweatpants if you want to be comfortable

2450
01:55:00,149 --> 01:54:57,520
when you come

2451
01:55:01,510 --> 01:55:00,159
because they're wearing a tight belt in

2452
01:55:02,790 --> 01:55:01,520
hypnosis they're going to feel that

2453
01:55:05,510 --> 01:55:02,800
tight belt

2454
01:55:06,950 --> 01:55:05,520
if you have to go to the bathroom you're

2455
01:55:10,070 --> 01:55:06,960
going to feel it and that's going to

2456
01:55:13,350 --> 01:55:10,080
interrupt um and interfere with your

2457
01:55:15,270 --> 01:55:13,360
you know the state that you're in so um

2458
01:55:16,950 --> 01:55:15,280
that's why you don't i mean i'm getting

2459
01:55:19,030 --> 01:55:16,960
into like the specific number

2460
01:55:20,790 --> 01:55:19,040
before we even go into hypnosis before

2461
01:55:23,430 --> 01:55:20,800
they lay down the couch and say okay

2462
01:55:24,149 --> 01:55:23,440
go to the restroom you know do that come

2463
01:55:26,709 --> 01:55:24,159
back

2464
01:55:28,870 --> 01:55:26,719
get on the couch you know get a feel for

2465
01:55:31,189 --> 01:55:28,880
it make yourself comfortable

2466
01:55:32,470 --> 01:55:31,199
um so there are a lot of little things

2467
01:55:35,270 --> 01:55:32,480
that i do

2468
01:55:36,629 --> 01:55:35,280
um that i know are going to make someone

2469
01:55:40,229 --> 01:55:36,639
comfortable

2470
01:55:44,470 --> 01:55:40,239
um have you ever been yvonne

2471
01:55:47,669 --> 01:55:44,480
have you ever been uncomfortable in that

2472
01:55:52,709 --> 01:55:47,679
somebody is starting to

2473
01:55:56,070 --> 01:55:52,719
say things and it's

2474
01:55:59,350 --> 01:55:56,080
you have to stop the session

2475
01:56:03,109 --> 01:55:59,360
has that you know no

2476
01:56:06,790 --> 01:56:03,119
no um most

2477
01:56:10,310 --> 01:56:09,189
they will tell me when something has

2478
01:56:13,430 --> 01:56:10,320
come is coming up

2479
01:56:15,750 --> 01:56:13,440
where there is i mean there is

2480
01:56:16,629 --> 01:56:15,760
unbelievable to them they're frightened

2481
01:56:18,629 --> 01:56:16,639
even though

2482
01:56:19,750 --> 01:56:18,639
i use a lot of technical fear or the

2483
01:56:22,070 --> 01:56:19,760
pain but

2484
01:56:23,990 --> 01:56:22,080
you know tell me what's happening just

2485
01:56:25,830 --> 01:56:24,000
report it

2486
01:56:27,510 --> 01:56:25,840
and if they feel that they really can't

2487
01:56:31,270 --> 01:56:27,520
go on they'll tell they have

2488
01:56:34,070 --> 01:56:31,280
they have um the

2489
01:56:35,189 --> 01:56:34,080
the will it you know uh and the control

2490
01:56:37,990 --> 01:56:35,199
to save on

2491
01:56:38,310 --> 01:56:38,000
i i want to get out i want to come out

2492
01:56:39,830 --> 01:56:38,320
and

2493
01:56:42,790 --> 01:56:39,840
that's happened many times you have a

2494
01:56:46,870 --> 01:56:42,800
safe word

2495
01:56:50,550 --> 01:56:46,880
i put people in their safe place

2496
01:56:53,510 --> 01:56:50,560
and it's everybody's own safe place it's

2497
01:56:56,629 --> 01:56:53,520
your individual

2498
01:56:59,750 --> 01:56:56,639
choice where you want me to take you

2499
01:57:02,790 --> 01:56:59,760
when i go in when i put them in hypnosis

2500
01:57:05,589 --> 01:57:02,800
and before i bring them out and it's

2501
01:57:06,470 --> 01:57:05,599
a place where i put them when things

2502
01:57:09,350 --> 01:57:06,480
start getting

2503
01:57:09,750 --> 01:57:09,360
really uncomfortable or frightening and

2504
01:57:12,629 --> 01:57:09,760
i'm

2505
01:57:14,310 --> 01:57:12,639
before i bring them out i never snap

2506
01:57:15,750 --> 01:57:14,320
someone out of hypnosis that's the worst

2507
01:57:17,990 --> 01:57:15,760
thing you could do

2508
01:57:18,790 --> 01:57:18,000
but before i bring them out i take them

2509
01:57:22,390 --> 01:57:18,800
to their

2510
01:57:24,870 --> 01:57:22,400
safe favorite place give them

2511
01:57:25,430 --> 01:57:24,880
suggestions uh or the suggestions that

2512
01:57:27,990 --> 01:57:25,440
they

2513
01:57:29,030 --> 01:57:28,000
asked me to give them and then bring

2514
01:57:32,950 --> 01:57:29,040
them out

2515
01:57:36,149 --> 01:57:32,960
gently and you know and then we

2516
01:57:52,950 --> 01:57:36,159
we talk about what what occurred

2517
01:57:57,910 --> 01:57:55,750
back and i want you to think about this

2518
01:58:00,950 --> 01:57:57,920
uh i don't do preemptive questions

2519
01:58:04,229 --> 01:58:00,960
but um i've often

2520
01:58:04,629 --> 01:58:04,239
thought would somebody including myself

2521
01:58:08,310 --> 01:58:04,639
would

2522
01:58:11,510 --> 01:58:08,320
somebody need regression for a specific

2523
01:58:15,030 --> 01:58:11,520
reason and i keep going back to

2524
01:58:17,030 --> 01:58:15,040
lost time right you you need to go

2525
01:58:19,350 --> 01:58:17,040
and figure that out you gotta you got

2526
01:58:22,310 --> 01:58:19,360
two three hours here that are missing

2527
01:58:24,310 --> 01:58:22,320
you don't remember you need to go and

2528
01:58:26,149 --> 01:58:24,320
find that out

2529
01:58:27,669 --> 01:58:26,159
then there's the other part why would

2530
01:58:30,950 --> 01:58:27,679
somebody want

2531
01:58:33,589 --> 01:58:30,960
a regression um to go back to something

2532
01:58:35,669 --> 01:58:33,599
that they remember everything about

2533
01:58:37,350 --> 01:58:35,679
right so no i want you to think about

2534
01:58:38,149 --> 01:58:37,360
that for a second think before you

2535
01:58:40,070 --> 01:58:38,159
answer

2536
01:58:41,430 --> 01:58:40,080
and let's take our break right here this

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01:58:43,669 --> 01:58:41,440
is fade to black i am

2538
01:58:44,470 --> 01:58:43,679
jimmy church tonight the one and only

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01:58:48,550 --> 01:58:44,480
yvonne

2540
01:58:50,470 --> 01:58:48,560
haven't talked about past cases we

2541
01:58:52,550 --> 01:58:50,480
haven't talked about the famous stuff

2542
01:58:54,149 --> 01:58:52,560
we're just talking about that's the best

2543
01:58:56,470 --> 01:58:54,159
yvonne

2544
01:59:01,109 --> 01:58:56,480
stay right there we'll be right back

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when you're in the house for longer

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periods of time

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you can see them flying or running

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across the floor

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ooh yuck they're unhealthy gross and

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disgusting

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bugs i loathe bugs we

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keep a clean home but occasionally bugs

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show up

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02:01:17,430 --> 02:01:16,400
well i found something that is tougher

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than bugs

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hidden bugs including ants roaches and

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plus orange guard is a residual

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repellent

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02:01:31,750 --> 02:01:30,560
all of the ingredients of orange guard

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are on the fda

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generally recognized as safe list orange

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guard may be used around

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02:01:59,750 --> 02:01:40,159
food humans and pets it comes with a 30

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you wanna know a secret i love

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police i really love ponies i'm serious

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02:02:10,390 --> 02:02:08,639
i couldn't stay sane without pawn

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02:02:13,589 --> 02:02:10,400
instabrush

2610
02:02:18,870 --> 02:02:13,599
why fade to black because you never got

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02:02:21,109 --> 02:02:18,880
that pony

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02:02:23,430 --> 02:02:21,119
this is fade to black with jimmy church

2613
02:02:35,260 --> 02:02:23,440
on the game changer radio network

2614
02:02:42,629 --> 02:02:41,030
[Music]

2615
02:02:44,229 --> 02:02:42,639
welcome back fade to black i am your

2616
02:02:46,229 --> 02:02:44,239
host jimmy church

2617
02:02:47,510 --> 02:02:46,239
another great conversation with the von

2618
02:02:49,589 --> 02:02:47,520
smith

2619
02:02:50,870 --> 02:02:49,599
she's the best on the game changer

2620
02:02:53,270 --> 02:02:50,880
network and kg r

2621
02:02:54,070 --> 02:02:53,280
a the planets you can follow me on

2622
02:02:56,709 --> 02:02:54,080
twitter at j

2623
02:02:57,109 --> 02:02:56,719
church radio and yvonne uh do you have

2624
02:03:00,870 --> 02:02:57,119
uh

2625
02:03:04,709 --> 02:03:00,880
a twitter

2626
02:03:09,390 --> 02:03:04,719
i don't really but i have a new website

2627
02:03:19,270 --> 02:03:09,400
and i'd like to announce and it is

2628
02:03:22,629 --> 02:03:21,189
i'm going to tweet this out right now

2629
02:03:28,350 --> 02:03:22,639
hip no okay

2630
02:03:35,430 --> 02:03:30,510
smith.com right

2631
02:03:39,030 --> 02:03:35,440
hypnotherapist right now yvonnesmith.com

2632
02:03:42,470 --> 02:03:39,040
okay i do have a twitter account i just

2633
02:03:43,910 --> 02:03:42,480
don't really go on to it much but um

2634
02:03:46,709 --> 02:03:43,920
yeah i don't know all the ins and outs

2635
02:03:49,990 --> 02:03:48,629
yeah there's my website yeah we're all

2636
02:03:53,510 --> 02:03:50,000
figuring it out

2637
02:03:56,790 --> 02:03:53,520
here is yvonne's

2638
02:04:14,790 --> 02:03:56,800
new site and

2639
02:04:18,149 --> 02:04:16,629
i'm from the old school remember we

2640
02:04:19,669 --> 02:04:18,159
didn't have the internet and all that

2641
02:04:21,830 --> 02:04:19,679
when i started

2642
02:04:23,109 --> 02:04:21,840
i know i'm learning all this stuff let

2643
02:04:26,390 --> 02:04:23,119
me see here

2644
02:04:29,589 --> 02:04:26,400
oh i typed in the wrong link okay

2645
02:04:32,229 --> 02:04:29,599
i spelled something wrong

2646
02:04:32,870 --> 02:04:32,239
ah i'm sorry everybody i gotta delete

2647
02:04:35,270 --> 02:04:32,880
this tweet

2648
02:04:45,629 --> 02:04:35,280
i don't want everybody i what what did i

2649
02:04:51,669 --> 02:04:47,910
h-y-p-n-o-t-h-e-r-a-p-i-s-t

2650
02:04:59,189 --> 02:04:54,950
all ah you know uh

2651
02:05:02,870 --> 02:04:59,199
two ends there you go

2652
02:05:06,550 --> 02:05:02,880
you know that's my mom's middle name

2653
02:05:09,510 --> 02:05:06,560
yvonne and it's something that is

2654
02:05:10,069 --> 02:05:09,520
yeah yeah yeah all these years i didn't

2655
02:05:12,629 --> 02:05:10,079
know that

2656
02:05:14,709 --> 02:05:12,639
and and and she was the best uh you know

2657
02:05:18,390 --> 02:05:14,719
she's no longer with us but

2658
02:05:20,390 --> 02:05:18,400
um but yvonne is just something that

2659
02:05:22,149 --> 02:05:20,400
always sticks out as soon as i hear it i

2660
02:05:24,470 --> 02:05:22,159
always think of my mom

2661
02:05:26,229 --> 02:05:24,480
and uh oh of course it's just a great

2662
02:05:29,669 --> 02:05:26,239
name it's a great name

2663
02:05:31,669 --> 02:05:29,679
okay um now okay so back to what i was

2664
02:05:35,109 --> 02:05:31,679
suggesting right before

2665
02:05:40,390 --> 02:05:35,119
the break is in a

2666
02:05:44,629 --> 02:05:40,400
general sense is somebody coming to you

2667
02:05:48,870 --> 02:05:44,639
about missing time all the time

2668
02:05:50,310 --> 02:05:48,880
jimmy all the time that's what haunts

2669
02:05:53,270 --> 02:05:50,320
them for

2670
02:05:55,589 --> 02:05:53,280
so many years and that's what i found so

2671
02:05:59,830 --> 02:05:55,599
fascinating

2672
02:06:07,189 --> 02:06:03,510
cases was that say

2673
02:06:09,910 --> 02:06:07,199
20 years ago there was a family

2674
02:06:11,669 --> 02:06:09,920
riding in the car and they were coming

2675
02:06:15,589 --> 02:06:11,679
from the airport to home and it

2676
02:06:18,390 --> 02:06:15,599
should have only taken an hour and

2677
02:06:20,550 --> 02:06:18,400
they get home and it's actually two

2678
02:06:24,709 --> 02:06:20,560
hours later and but they don't

2679
02:06:27,430 --> 02:06:24,719
really realize it until

2680
02:06:29,189 --> 02:06:27,440
later things start coming up and but

2681
02:06:32,950 --> 02:06:29,199
they don't talk about it

2682
02:06:35,270 --> 02:06:32,960
for many years um and then

2683
02:06:37,990 --> 02:06:35,280
something happens something triggers one

2684
02:06:40,149 --> 02:06:38,000
of the met family members into

2685
02:06:41,510 --> 02:06:40,159
you know gosh do you remember when we

2686
02:06:56,390 --> 02:06:41,520
were driving down

2687
02:07:02,629 --> 02:07:00,149
say is i have some so many of them

2688
02:07:03,830 --> 02:07:02,639
in my caseload and that's you know

2689
02:07:08,709 --> 02:07:03,840
thinking about this for

2690
02:07:11,109 --> 02:07:08,719
20 sometimes 30 years they finally

2691
02:07:12,950 --> 02:07:11,119
have to know well why did it take us so

2692
02:07:17,030 --> 02:07:12,960
long why do you know

2693
02:07:43,270 --> 02:07:17,040
why don't i remember what happened

2694
02:07:51,830 --> 02:07:47,510
experience they remember everything

2695
02:07:55,669 --> 02:07:51,840
is there a reason for regression there

2696
02:07:57,430 --> 02:07:55,679
well that's that's a misnomer

2697
02:07:59,830 --> 02:07:57,440
that they remember everything they don't

2698
02:08:19,990 --> 02:07:59,840
remember everything

2699
02:08:23,589 --> 02:08:22,790
take myself back to that time and i tell

2700
02:08:26,149 --> 02:08:23,599
them

2701
02:08:27,830 --> 02:08:26,159
no i don't recommend it because even

2702
02:08:29,669 --> 02:08:27,840
though they had a lot of conscious

2703
02:08:32,550 --> 02:08:29,679
memory of what happened

2704
02:08:33,350 --> 02:08:32,560
something could come up and it will that

2705
02:08:34,830 --> 02:08:33,360
they were not

2706
02:08:37,669 --> 02:08:34,840
expecting and they're there by

2707
02:08:45,910 --> 02:08:37,679
themselves so

2708
02:08:52,470 --> 02:08:48,950
i've had experience and

2709
02:08:55,510 --> 02:08:52,480
uh i wanted to uh uh talk about blocking

2710
02:08:58,709 --> 02:08:55,520
you uh mentioned this earlier

2711
02:08:59,669 --> 02:08:58,719
and it is something that uh is is talked

2712
02:09:03,030 --> 02:08:59,679
about a lot

2713
02:09:07,589 --> 02:09:03,040
with uh regression and therapy but

2714
02:09:10,550 --> 02:09:07,599
i don't think a lot of us understand

2715
02:09:11,990 --> 02:09:10,560
what a block is and there's certainly a

2716
02:09:14,629 --> 02:09:12,000
lot of

2717
02:09:17,669 --> 02:09:14,639
negative thought behind it too as well

2718
02:09:20,709 --> 02:09:17,679
it feels negative to me

2719
02:09:23,750 --> 02:09:20,719
so what is a block and

2720
02:09:27,270 --> 02:09:23,760
is it something that is intentionally

2721
02:09:33,990 --> 02:09:30,550
now it could be

2722
02:09:35,589 --> 02:09:34,000
where the alien beings will place a

2723
02:09:38,629 --> 02:09:35,599
block

2724
02:09:39,750 --> 02:09:38,639
into someone where they say they're not

2725
02:09:42,790 --> 02:09:39,760
going to remember this

2726
02:09:45,589 --> 02:09:42,800
i mean way back betty hill was told

2727
02:09:49,030 --> 02:09:45,599
you're not going to remember this many

2728
02:09:52,229 --> 02:09:50,550
you won't remember this you know we're

2729
02:09:53,830 --> 02:09:52,239
not here to hurt you you won't remember

2730
02:09:56,470 --> 02:09:53,840
this

2731
02:09:59,189 --> 02:09:56,480
so they could have placed some type of

2732
02:10:05,910 --> 02:10:02,870
also as i mentioned before that's the

2733
02:10:09,030 --> 02:10:05,920
job of the subconscious is to block

2734
02:10:13,990 --> 02:10:09,040
off all or partial

2735
02:10:17,030 --> 02:10:14,000
of the trauma the event

2736
02:10:21,270 --> 02:10:17,040
so if the if the alien beings

2737
02:10:23,430 --> 02:10:21,280
place a block in the abductees

2738
02:10:27,510 --> 02:10:23,440
then they they're not very effective

2739
02:10:30,870 --> 02:10:27,520
because i could get through those blocks

2740
02:10:33,030 --> 02:10:30,880
i've done it many times it they probably

2741
02:10:34,310 --> 02:10:33,040
were affected for a while effective for

2742
02:10:37,910 --> 02:10:34,320
a while

2743
02:10:41,430 --> 02:10:37,920
but it's you know when somebody starts

2744
02:10:43,910 --> 02:10:41,440
awakening to their experiences

2745
02:10:46,790 --> 02:10:43,920
they something triggers that if they saw

2746
02:10:50,550 --> 02:10:46,800
something on tv if they read something

2747
02:10:53,669 --> 02:10:50,560
um something may trigger

2748
02:10:55,830 --> 02:10:53,679
a memory and then they get a flashback

2749
02:10:57,750 --> 02:10:55,840
that's how the subconscious works it

2750
02:11:00,149 --> 02:10:57,760
starts bubbling up

2751
02:11:01,830 --> 02:11:00,159
to the surface these these blocked

2752
02:11:04,310 --> 02:11:01,840
memories

2753
02:11:05,270 --> 02:11:04,320
and that's what haunts somebody that's

2754
02:11:07,910 --> 02:11:05,280
when they

2755
02:11:10,709 --> 02:11:07,920
they realize oh my god you know did this

2756
02:11:13,109 --> 02:11:10,719
happen to me of course there's more

2757
02:11:16,310 --> 02:11:13,119
so much more out there right now you

2758
02:11:18,950 --> 02:11:16,320
know than we ever had when i started

2759
02:11:20,629 --> 02:11:18,960
um on the internet of course you have to

2760
02:11:21,510 --> 02:11:20,639
separate the wheat from the chap as we

2761
02:11:24,550 --> 02:11:21,520
all know because not

2762
02:11:27,750 --> 02:11:24,560
everything on the internet is true

2763
02:11:29,750 --> 02:11:27,760
um so

2764
02:11:30,950 --> 02:11:29,760
they have you know they they're able to

2765
02:11:34,629 --> 02:11:30,960
go to the internet

2766
02:11:35,910 --> 02:11:34,639
youtube or whatever it is to maybe find

2767
02:11:39,669 --> 02:11:35,920
out

2768
02:11:42,470 --> 02:11:39,679
what happened um

2769
02:11:44,629 --> 02:11:42,480
but that's what that's why they when

2770
02:11:47,430 --> 02:11:44,639
something triggers

2771
02:11:48,629 --> 02:11:47,440
a hidden memory and that stays with the

2772
02:11:49,910 --> 02:11:48,639
person and that's when they become

2773
02:11:52,229 --> 02:11:49,920
haunted like

2774
02:11:53,910 --> 02:11:52,239
it affects their whole life they can't

2775
02:11:56,229 --> 02:11:53,920
stop thinking about it

2776
02:11:59,109 --> 02:11:56,239
that's when they they know they're ready

2777
02:12:02,310 --> 02:11:59,119
to okay i've got to find out

2778
02:12:03,430 --> 02:12:02,320
what is what is typically blocked like

2779
02:12:06,870 --> 02:12:03,440
the entire

2780
02:12:10,470 --> 02:12:06,880
abduction event or is it

2781
02:12:13,669 --> 02:12:10,480
specific things inside

2782
02:12:17,030 --> 02:12:13,679
event that aliens and et

2783
02:12:20,229 --> 02:12:17,040
want kept secret

2784
02:12:22,149 --> 02:12:20,239
you know i found that a person will

2785
02:12:25,830 --> 02:12:22,159
remember

2786
02:12:27,750 --> 02:12:25,840
the beginning of an abduction

2787
02:12:29,589 --> 02:12:27,760
like they say they'll have a lot of

2788
02:12:32,709 --> 02:12:29,599
cases where

2789
02:12:36,790 --> 02:12:32,719
um they're driving down the highway

2790
02:12:41,589 --> 02:12:36,800
and they see a bright light above them

2791
02:12:44,950 --> 02:12:44,229
maybe the bright light just shines on

2792
02:12:47,109 --> 02:12:44,960
their cars

2793
02:12:49,030 --> 02:12:47,119
and just floods their entire car you

2794
02:13:04,310 --> 02:12:49,040
can't see anything

2795
02:13:10,390 --> 02:13:07,830
all of a sudden they can't move and

2796
02:13:13,189 --> 02:13:10,400
they become frightened and then there's

2797
02:13:17,830 --> 02:13:13,199
a blackout period

2798
02:13:21,750 --> 02:13:17,840
or they'll remember sometimes

2799
02:13:24,390 --> 02:13:21,760
being slammed into bed

2800
02:13:25,669 --> 02:13:24,400
they just boom and it kind of you know

2801
02:13:30,709 --> 02:13:25,679
it

2802
02:13:33,109 --> 02:13:30,719
the obvious thing that something

2803
02:13:36,790 --> 02:13:33,119
happened is if they find themselves

2804
02:13:40,229 --> 02:13:36,800
outside some of them in their

2805
02:13:42,229 --> 02:13:40,239
pajamas or even in their underwear

2806
02:13:45,109 --> 02:13:42,239
they find themselves outside with the

2807
02:13:47,030 --> 02:13:45,119
door's law they don't know how they got

2808
02:13:50,870 --> 02:13:47,040
out there

2809
02:13:55,109 --> 02:13:50,880
um so when i hear things like this

2810
02:13:57,830 --> 02:13:55,119
of course my red flags go up

2811
02:14:00,870 --> 02:13:57,840
and then when we do go we go through the

2812
02:14:03,910 --> 02:14:00,880
process of the regression then

2813
02:14:07,430 --> 02:14:03,920
then the scenario comes out they're

2814
02:14:09,189 --> 02:14:07,440
taken um inside the craft i mean they're

2815
02:14:09,910 --> 02:14:09,199
not in their bedroom anymore they're not

2816
02:14:12,629 --> 02:14:09,920
in their car

2817
02:14:13,669 --> 02:14:12,639
anymore or their entire car was taken up

2818
02:14:16,709 --> 02:14:13,679
to the craft i've

2819
02:14:20,709 --> 02:14:16,719
had that those cases as well

2820
02:14:23,189 --> 02:14:20,719
um they're you know escorted

2821
02:14:24,229 --> 02:14:23,199
down the hallway or in another area of

2822
02:14:29,030 --> 02:14:24,239
the craft

2823
02:14:31,910 --> 02:14:29,040
they start they start um

2824
02:14:32,870 --> 02:14:31,920
describing these beings they're not

2825
02:14:36,069 --> 02:14:32,880
human people

2826
02:14:39,270 --> 02:14:36,079
um and then they you know

2827
02:14:40,870 --> 02:14:39,280
it doesn't happen like a b c d they'll

2828
02:14:42,709 --> 02:14:40,880
be inside the craft

2829
02:14:44,069 --> 02:14:42,719
and then they know they're not in a in

2830
02:14:46,870 --> 02:14:44,079
their regular

2831
02:14:48,149 --> 02:14:46,880
environment and of course that starts

2832
02:14:49,750 --> 02:14:48,159
frightening them

2833
02:14:51,189 --> 02:14:49,760
you know they go through a little bit of

2834
02:14:53,669 --> 02:14:51,199
you know just

2835
02:14:54,390 --> 02:14:53,679
anxiety which which of course they're

2836
02:14:56,709 --> 02:14:54,400
going to

2837
02:14:57,910 --> 02:14:56,719
because they're not they don't recognize

2838
02:14:59,830 --> 02:14:57,920
where they are

2839
02:15:02,950 --> 02:14:59,840
and then it may be the next scene will

2840
02:15:05,990 --> 02:15:02,960
be you know i'm not standing anymore i'm

2841
02:15:08,870 --> 02:15:06,000
laying down and it feels like a

2842
02:15:11,109 --> 02:15:08,880
feels like a hard table to alaska what

2843
02:15:14,149 --> 02:15:11,119
does it feel like underneath you

2844
02:15:15,830 --> 02:15:14,159
um and then you know the scenario goes

2845
02:15:19,589 --> 02:15:15,840
on so

2846
02:15:23,109 --> 02:15:19,599
so that's how um that's

2847
02:15:26,550 --> 02:15:23,119
where they're blocked mainly is

2848
02:15:28,790 --> 02:15:26,560
what happened to them and a lot happens

2849
02:15:31,910 --> 02:15:28,800
to them once they're

2850
02:15:37,109 --> 02:15:31,920
inside the craft have you

2851
02:15:40,229 --> 02:15:37,119
had a situation where um

2852
02:15:43,270 --> 02:15:40,239
the uh your client

2853
02:15:47,669 --> 02:15:43,280
has stepped outside of

2854
02:15:51,189 --> 02:15:47,679
the the normalcy of an abduction

2855
02:15:54,310 --> 02:15:51,199
and has gone into data

2856
02:15:57,430 --> 02:15:54,320
facts science and

2857
02:16:00,390 --> 02:15:57,440
and and other things that would be

2858
02:16:01,270 --> 02:16:00,400
you know outside of the you just said it

2859
02:16:03,350 --> 02:16:01,280
right i

2860
02:16:05,030 --> 02:16:03,360
i'm inside of a table there's a you know

2861
02:16:08,470 --> 02:16:05,040
i'm on a coal table

2862
02:16:09,669 --> 02:16:08,480
there's outside of that have you had

2863
02:16:12,229 --> 02:16:09,679
somebody just start

2864
02:16:14,149 --> 02:16:12,239
spewing out physics and science and

2865
02:16:17,430 --> 02:16:14,159
numbers and languages

2866
02:16:20,390 --> 02:16:17,440
and uh data

2867
02:16:21,510 --> 02:16:20,400
there have been yeah they um and not

2868
02:16:24,229 --> 02:16:21,520
always just in

2869
02:16:24,870 --> 02:16:24,239
in regression people have what i call

2870
02:16:27,990 --> 02:16:24,880
have been

2871
02:16:30,069 --> 02:16:28,000
downloaded with information they don't

2872
02:16:33,910 --> 02:16:30,079
know where it came from

2873
02:16:33,920 --> 02:16:37,589
visions or maybe a

2874
02:16:46,469 --> 02:16:41,509
a very i mean a dream

2875
02:16:49,429 --> 02:16:46,479
um where they're seeing

2876
02:16:51,429 --> 02:16:49,439
numbers you know like mathematical

2877
02:16:54,549 --> 02:16:51,439
equations

2878
02:16:58,230 --> 02:16:54,559
just flooding them or information

2879
02:17:00,950 --> 02:16:58,240
like um this is what they have to do

2880
02:17:01,429 --> 02:17:00,960
well yeah and so i guess what i'm asking

2881
02:17:04,469 --> 02:17:01,439
is

2882
02:17:07,030 --> 02:17:04,479
um and and i appreciate that but

2883
02:17:08,230 --> 02:17:07,040
are they able to do uh you know a hard

2884
02:17:10,629 --> 02:17:08,240
recall

2885
02:17:12,389 --> 02:17:10,639
and and write these equations down and

2886
02:17:15,750 --> 02:17:12,399
write these numbers down

2887
02:17:19,030 --> 02:17:15,760
yes yes yes

2888
02:17:20,790 --> 02:17:19,040
some of them can remember you know and

2889
02:17:21,429 --> 02:17:20,800
i'm not saying a hundred percent because

2890
02:17:23,910 --> 02:17:21,439
i don't think

2891
02:17:25,429 --> 02:17:23,920
anything any memory like that is 100 but

2892
02:17:29,110 --> 02:17:25,439
they remember

2893
02:17:31,509 --> 02:17:29,120
where um because i think they

2894
02:17:33,349 --> 02:17:31,519
are supposed to remember what they were

2895
02:17:36,230 --> 02:17:33,359
downloaded with

2896
02:17:37,549 --> 02:17:36,240
or drawings you know there's drawings

2897
02:17:43,669 --> 02:17:37,559
there's

2898
02:17:44,549 --> 02:17:43,679
messages you know all sorts of things

2899
02:17:47,910 --> 02:17:44,559
like that

2900
02:17:50,790 --> 02:17:47,920
yeah um uh a couple of weeks ago

2901
02:17:53,669 --> 02:17:50,800
i had terry lovelace on the show and and

2902
02:17:57,429 --> 02:17:53,679
uh the three of us were able to hang out

2903
02:18:00,709 --> 02:17:57,439
um and yeah and and terry um

2904
02:18:03,750 --> 02:18:00,719
talked about and posted the picture um

2905
02:18:06,870 --> 02:18:03,760
of his uh cell phone uh

2906
02:18:09,990 --> 02:18:06,880
data uh about

2907
02:18:13,349 --> 02:18:10,000
uh him being 60 feet above his house

2908
02:18:15,190 --> 02:18:13,359
doesn't remember right um but

2909
02:18:17,110 --> 02:18:15,200
here we've got that data that i'm

2910
02:18:20,389 --> 02:18:17,120
talking about right there's something to

2911
02:18:23,030 --> 02:18:20,399
to not only back up his story

2912
02:18:24,629 --> 02:18:23,040
but to help us try to understand what

2913
02:18:27,270 --> 02:18:24,639
what happened to him

2914
02:18:27,910 --> 02:18:27,280
um pretty unbelievable but he didn't

2915
02:18:31,030 --> 02:18:27,920
remember

2916
02:18:34,549 --> 02:18:31,040
a whole lot um were you

2917
02:18:36,790 --> 02:18:34,559
able to uh assist him

2918
02:18:38,870 --> 02:18:36,800
um he showed that to me that was

2919
02:18:41,429 --> 02:18:38,880
incredible um

2920
02:18:43,589 --> 02:18:41,439
i don't remember that was when around

2921
02:18:47,110 --> 02:18:43,599
the time you were in roswell

2922
02:18:51,509 --> 02:18:47,120
of course not last year but

2923
02:18:54,150 --> 02:18:51,519
um since he lives out of state

2924
02:18:56,629 --> 02:18:54,160
he lives in another state we haven't

2925
02:18:59,589 --> 02:18:56,639
gotten together he hasn't asked me

2926
02:19:00,950 --> 02:18:59,599
to regress him on that maybe you know at

2927
02:19:05,030 --> 02:19:00,960
some point

2928
02:19:07,270 --> 02:19:05,040
he will but it would be very

2929
02:19:18,790 --> 02:19:07,280
interesting to see you know what

2930
02:19:22,230 --> 02:19:20,950
this cell phone in his pocket because

2931
02:19:25,030 --> 02:19:22,240
he's listening to stuff

2932
02:19:25,830 --> 02:19:25,040
at night and and we all do that or i i

2933
02:19:31,830 --> 02:19:25,840
do

2934
02:19:32,870 --> 02:19:31,840
on my nightstand with a speaker hooked

2935
02:19:36,629 --> 02:19:32,880
up and

2936
02:19:39,589 --> 02:19:36,639
and uh uh you know we we all do that

2937
02:19:40,150 --> 02:19:39,599
today we have technology to to uh

2938
02:19:42,469 --> 02:19:40,160
continue

2939
02:19:43,990 --> 02:19:42,479
research at night that's what i do but

2940
02:19:47,270 --> 02:19:44,000
for him

2941
02:19:50,710 --> 02:19:47,280
that is an example of if somebody should

2942
02:19:51,670 --> 02:19:50,720
should have regression that event right

2943
02:19:57,349 --> 02:19:51,680
there with terry

2944
02:20:00,070 --> 02:19:57,359
is exactly what uh uh therapists are for

2945
02:20:01,190 --> 02:20:00,080
oh absolutely i mean if he decides if

2946
02:20:04,550 --> 02:20:01,200
and when

2947
02:20:06,630 --> 02:20:04,560
he decides um i hope to you know to work

2948
02:20:07,349 --> 02:20:06,640
with him i know terry very well like you

2949
02:20:10,550 --> 02:20:07,359
know

2950
02:20:14,550 --> 02:20:10,560
wonderful person he's a part of cyro

2951
02:20:18,070 --> 02:20:14,560
um so yeah that would be extremely

2952
02:20:19,590 --> 02:20:18,080
uh interesting to find out you know what

2953
02:20:22,309 --> 02:20:19,600
happened

2954
02:20:23,429 --> 02:20:22,319
and he's got documentation right there

2955
02:20:26,870 --> 02:20:23,439
the um

2956
02:20:29,990 --> 02:20:26,880
uh the the people that reach out to you

2957
02:20:32,230 --> 02:20:30,000
um is there

2958
02:20:33,429 --> 02:20:32,240
as you're starting to connect the dots

2959
02:20:37,910 --> 02:20:33,439
um

2960
02:20:39,429 --> 02:20:37,920
is there is it nearly always somebody

2961
02:20:41,110 --> 02:20:39,439
had something happen when they were four

2962
02:20:45,670 --> 02:20:41,120
or five years old

2963
02:20:48,790 --> 02:20:45,680
is is has that become the norm

2964
02:20:49,190 --> 02:20:48,800
oh it's always been the norm it's always

2965
02:20:52,389 --> 02:20:49,200
been

2966
02:20:55,750 --> 02:20:52,399
um i mean way back when

2967
02:20:58,710 --> 02:20:55,760
you know bud being bud hopkins being

2968
02:21:00,070 --> 02:20:58,720
considered being the pioneer of

2969
02:21:02,469 --> 02:21:00,080
abduction research

2970
02:21:04,230 --> 02:21:02,479
you know he found that cases started

2971
02:21:07,110 --> 02:21:04,240
back in childhood

2972
02:21:12,950 --> 02:21:07,120
i'm i have found that john mack found

2973
02:21:15,110 --> 02:21:12,960
that david jacobs

2974
02:21:16,870 --> 02:21:15,120
children between the ages of about four

2975
02:21:20,630 --> 02:21:16,880
and five years old

2976
02:21:22,309 --> 02:21:20,640
will start saying things like something

2977
02:21:25,910 --> 02:21:22,319
came in their room

2978
02:21:26,870 --> 02:21:25,920
or they saw you know whatever they call

2979
02:21:30,070 --> 02:21:26,880
the

2980
02:21:33,110 --> 02:21:30,080
say

2981
02:21:34,630 --> 02:21:33,120
alien they never refer to it as an alien

2982
02:21:37,349 --> 02:21:34,640
came in their room

2983
02:21:38,469 --> 02:21:37,359
um one of the cases was uh i think it

2984
02:21:42,469 --> 02:21:38,479
was

2985
02:21:45,270 --> 02:21:42,479
uh captain kirk came in his room um

2986
02:21:46,950 --> 02:21:45,280
i had a case where you know the child

2987
02:21:48,950 --> 02:21:46,960
said there was a tall

2988
02:21:51,190 --> 02:21:48,960
spider that would come in and talk to

2989
02:21:54,630 --> 02:21:51,200
him a tall spider

2990
02:21:58,309 --> 02:21:54,640
figure very prominently when

2991
02:22:02,070 --> 02:21:58,319
children describe this whole

2992
02:22:05,750 --> 02:22:02,080
phenomenon with uh

2993
02:22:08,910 --> 02:22:05,760
with these uh abduction experiences

2994
02:22:12,790 --> 02:22:08,920
in in a general sense can do you

2995
02:22:13,510 --> 02:22:12,800
categorize uh different species and e.t

2996
02:22:16,710 --> 02:22:13,520
races

2997
02:22:19,429 --> 02:22:16,720
or is it typically one race

2998
02:22:21,990 --> 02:22:19,439
or is it just an infinite amount what

2999
02:22:25,190 --> 02:22:22,000
are you seeing more and more of

3000
02:22:27,510 --> 02:22:25,200
well you know um the

3001
02:22:29,429 --> 02:22:27,520
the beings that i come across and my

3002
02:22:32,710 --> 02:22:29,439
clients come across

3003
02:22:33,030 --> 02:22:32,720
because they're being taken those are

3004
02:22:40,630 --> 02:22:33,040
the

3005
02:22:42,230 --> 02:22:40,640
four foot little bald skinny guys that

3006
02:22:43,830 --> 02:22:42,240
that take them out of their environment

3007
02:22:46,150 --> 02:22:43,840
and up to the ship

3008
02:22:47,429 --> 02:22:46,160
then once they get into the ship there's

3009
02:22:50,550 --> 02:22:47,439
different ones like

3010
02:22:51,910 --> 02:22:50,560
the taller we're called

3011
02:22:53,910 --> 02:22:51,920
they look like the little ones but

3012
02:22:54,630 --> 02:22:53,920
they're taller some of them are wearing

3013
02:22:58,389 --> 02:22:54,640
a very

3014
02:23:02,550 --> 02:22:58,399
tight skinny jumpsuit sometimes they see

3015
02:23:05,349 --> 02:23:02,560
an insignia on the jumpsuit

3016
02:23:06,070 --> 02:23:05,359
there's the of course the praying mantis

3017
02:23:08,710 --> 02:23:06,080
figures

3018
02:23:11,110 --> 02:23:08,720
very prominently in these experiences

3019
02:23:14,309 --> 02:23:11,120
he's usually

3020
02:23:18,389 --> 02:23:14,319
charged and there is a um

3021
02:23:19,990 --> 02:23:18,399
a planar command on the ship

3022
02:23:23,190 --> 02:23:20,000
then this praying mantis is probably

3023
02:23:26,469 --> 02:23:23,200
about seven at least seven foot tall

3024
02:23:29,190 --> 02:23:26,479
and um he looks exactly i mean just very

3025
02:23:32,070 --> 02:23:29,200
bark like you know his face sometimes

3026
02:23:37,110 --> 02:23:32,080
he's wearing a

3027
02:23:40,710 --> 02:23:37,120
a gown or a robe with a collar

3028
02:23:42,469 --> 02:23:40,720
um there's of course the human-looking

3029
02:23:43,910 --> 02:23:42,479
ones we used to call them

3030
02:23:46,309 --> 02:23:43,920
you know back in the day was called

3031
02:23:48,309 --> 02:23:46,319
nordics

3032
02:23:50,950 --> 02:23:48,319
where they look very human and very

3033
02:23:54,950 --> 02:23:53,429
you know david mentioned one time we

3034
02:23:55,830 --> 02:23:54,960
were having a conversation he was a

3035
02:23:59,510 --> 02:23:55,840
little probably

3036
02:24:01,830 --> 02:23:59,520
the perfected you know hybrids

3037
02:24:02,710 --> 02:24:01,840
but that was way back a long time ago so

3038
02:24:06,469 --> 02:24:02,720
but you know they

3039
02:24:08,870 --> 02:24:06,479
probably are just the very human looking

3040
02:24:09,990 --> 02:24:08,880
beings i know uh travis mentioned them

3041
02:24:16,230 --> 02:24:10,000
and

3042
02:24:19,349 --> 02:24:16,240
people

3043
02:24:23,270 --> 02:24:19,359
who still have never met and they

3044
02:24:26,710 --> 02:24:23,280
drew the exact same um

3045
02:24:27,110 --> 02:24:26,720
cuban-like with the with the blue suit

3046
02:24:30,469 --> 02:24:27,120
with

3047
02:24:34,230 --> 02:24:30,479
white piping um

3048
02:24:35,750 --> 02:24:34,240
that just amazed me it still amazes me

3049
02:24:37,270 --> 02:24:35,760
so there are you know they're different

3050
02:24:39,670 --> 02:24:37,280
beings that

3051
02:24:41,750 --> 02:24:39,680
will be on the ship together sometimes

3052
02:24:44,870 --> 02:24:41,760
there's the um

3053
02:24:46,950 --> 02:24:44,880
reptilian but

3054
02:24:48,790 --> 02:24:46,960
i don't seem to get too many reports of

3055
02:24:51,190 --> 02:24:48,800
the reptilians

3056
02:24:52,469 --> 02:24:51,200
um as much as the other was others that

3057
02:24:56,230 --> 02:24:52,479
i mentioned

3058
02:24:59,349 --> 02:24:56,240
but the the these different uh races

3059
02:25:02,550 --> 02:24:59,359
um are on the not

3060
02:25:03,510 --> 02:25:02,560
every ship of course but but more times

3061
02:25:07,750 --> 02:25:03,520
than not they are

3062
02:25:10,389 --> 02:25:07,760
all together as a group right

3063
02:25:11,750 --> 02:25:10,399
i i find that fascinating i find that

3064
02:25:14,469 --> 02:25:11,760
fascinating yeah

3065
02:25:15,750 --> 02:25:14,479
and they obviously have leech have their

3066
02:25:23,590 --> 02:25:15,760
job to do

3067
02:25:27,349 --> 02:25:25,670
it seems like the ones that are the gray

3068
02:25:30,870 --> 02:25:27,359
types with no

3069
02:25:33,990 --> 02:25:30,880
hair very spindly large eyes

3070
02:25:36,830 --> 02:25:34,000
are the ones that perform

3071
02:25:38,790 --> 02:25:36,840
the the medical experiments the

3072
02:25:41,030 --> 02:25:38,800
procedures

3073
02:25:42,790 --> 02:25:41,040
do you seem to be the ones that do that

3074
02:25:43,670 --> 02:25:42,800
and and when you when you hear about

3075
02:25:48,070 --> 02:25:43,680
those

3076
02:25:51,190 --> 02:25:48,080
um is there uh references

3077
02:25:55,750 --> 02:25:51,200
with uh um

3078
02:25:59,190 --> 02:25:55,760
earthlings military people in uniform

3079
02:26:01,190 --> 02:25:59,200
some yes and that

3080
02:26:03,429 --> 02:26:01,200
what's important to differentiate

3081
02:26:05,270 --> 02:26:03,439
weapons is

3082
02:26:06,630 --> 02:26:05,280
when they when they've had people

3083
02:26:08,150 --> 02:26:06,640
describe oh there's a

3084
02:26:09,670 --> 02:26:08,160
looks like a military person who's

3085
02:26:12,870 --> 02:26:09,680
wearing a uniform you know

3086
02:26:16,469 --> 02:26:12,880
scratching uniform you have to

3087
02:26:19,990 --> 02:26:16,479
be careful to

3088
02:26:23,110 --> 02:26:20,000
differentiate is that a real military

3089
02:26:25,110 --> 02:26:23,120
person there or is that

3090
02:26:27,590 --> 02:26:25,120
something that the alien beings are

3091
02:26:29,349 --> 02:26:27,600
placing in the person's mind

3092
02:26:31,190 --> 02:26:29,359
to make them think there's a military

3093
02:26:34,950 --> 02:26:31,200
human person there

3094
02:26:37,190 --> 02:26:34,960
but there are my labs those military

3095
02:26:41,110 --> 02:26:37,200
abductions that happen

3096
02:26:44,469 --> 02:26:41,120
um so i know melinda leslie

3097
02:26:46,630 --> 02:26:44,479
who i've known for years she's

3098
02:26:48,790 --> 02:26:46,640
documented many cases she's you know

3099
02:26:52,150 --> 02:26:48,800
she's had those experiences

3100
02:26:54,550 --> 02:26:52,160
so those that does happen

3101
02:26:56,309 --> 02:26:54,560
um you know this so there's a lot that

3102
02:27:00,150 --> 02:26:56,319
goes on

3103
02:27:01,990 --> 02:27:00,160
that um the alien beings can trick

3104
02:27:04,389 --> 02:27:02,000
the person into thinking that's what

3105
02:27:07,990 --> 02:27:04,399
they're seeing

3106
02:27:11,910 --> 02:27:08,000
how many um okay yvonne um

3107
02:27:14,950 --> 02:27:11,920
we were we have a decision to make

3108
02:27:17,349 --> 02:27:14,960
i can either talk you into

3109
02:27:17,990 --> 02:27:17,359
doing another 20 minutes with me after

3110
02:27:19,830 --> 02:27:18,000
this next

3111
02:27:21,429 --> 02:27:19,840
break because i'm not ready to let you

3112
02:27:24,710 --> 02:27:21,439
go or you can

3113
02:27:28,870 --> 02:27:24,720
say and upset the audience jimmy

3114
02:27:32,309 --> 02:27:28,880
i'm gonna go eat and watch some tv

3115
02:27:34,469 --> 02:27:32,319
well i have to go because

3116
02:27:35,830 --> 02:27:34,479
my little dog bradley is giving me the

3117
02:27:39,270 --> 02:27:35,840
evil eye

3118
02:27:42,070 --> 02:27:39,280
um that he needs to go out and

3119
02:27:44,790 --> 02:27:42,080
i do need to eat so i'm hoping that

3120
02:27:45,750 --> 02:27:44,800
you'll have me back in at your show i

3121
02:27:48,469 --> 02:27:45,760
love doing it

3122
02:27:49,190 --> 02:27:48,479
and i really appreciate this time with

3123
02:27:53,630 --> 02:27:49,200
you

3124
02:27:57,590 --> 02:27:53,640
for everybody it's uh

3125
02:27:59,910 --> 02:27:57,600
hypnotherapist yvonne smith with two

3126
02:28:01,670 --> 02:27:59,920
i've got that up i've got that up in

3127
02:28:03,670 --> 02:28:01,680
twitter and we put that out there

3128
02:28:06,630 --> 02:28:03,680
and yvonne is that the best way for

3129
02:28:09,750 --> 02:28:06,640
everybody to reach out to you

3130
02:28:10,550 --> 02:28:09,760
yes it is it is now um that i have that

3131
02:28:13,750 --> 02:28:10,560
uh because of

3132
02:28:16,790 --> 02:28:13,760
the you know a contact sheet um

3133
02:28:18,710 --> 02:28:16,800
and like my emails on there so that's my

3134
02:28:19,429 --> 02:28:18,720
email is the best way because i check

3135
02:28:22,070 --> 02:28:19,439
that

3136
02:28:24,790 --> 02:28:22,080
constantly sometimes i don't always get

3137
02:28:27,990 --> 02:28:24,800
to my voicemails and those really

3138
02:28:28,790 --> 02:28:28,000
accumulate so um yes so i appreciate you

3139
02:28:31,110 --> 02:28:28,800
putting my

3140
02:28:31,830 --> 02:28:31,120
uh website out there yeah thank you so

3141
02:28:35,270 --> 02:28:31,840
much yvonne

3142
02:28:37,670 --> 02:28:35,280
and and this is what's great uh for uh

3143
02:28:38,790 --> 02:28:37,680
our audience and all of the fader knots

3144
02:28:41,990 --> 02:28:38,800
yvonne

3145
02:28:45,510 --> 02:28:42,000
when we first started fade to black

3146
02:28:47,030 --> 02:28:45,520
so many many many years ago yvonne was

3147
02:28:50,070 --> 02:28:47,040
one of our very first

3148
02:28:51,030 --> 02:28:50,080
guests and and i just appreciate

3149
02:28:53,110 --> 02:28:51,040
everything that you do

3150
02:28:54,309 --> 02:28:53,120
yvonne uh you're very special and thank

3151
02:28:57,349 --> 02:28:54,319
you and thank you for

3152
02:29:00,389 --> 02:28:57,359
everything okay thank you jimmy

3153
02:29:02,230 --> 02:29:00,399
you and rita god bless all the best and

3154
02:29:03,590 --> 02:29:02,240
the best to you and your family be safe

3155
02:29:06,870 --> 02:29:03,600
out there

3156
02:29:08,950 --> 02:29:06,880
you too okay bye-bye bye-bye yvonne

3157
02:29:10,469 --> 02:29:08,960
smith everybody another great

3158
02:29:13,670 --> 02:29:10,479
conversation with yvonne

3159
02:29:15,830 --> 02:29:13,680
now um look i'm going to head towards a

3160
02:29:19,349 --> 02:29:15,840
break right here i got to get that in

3161
02:29:22,389 --> 02:29:19,359
um but i don't have my

3162
02:29:23,670 --> 02:29:22,399
phone system hooked up yet so i can't

3163
02:29:26,630 --> 02:29:23,680
take calls

3164
02:29:27,190 --> 02:29:26,640
i can't but what i can do is i can

3165
02:29:30,990 --> 02:29:27,200
answer

3166
02:29:34,469 --> 02:29:31,000
questions in twitter hashtag

3167
02:29:36,630 --> 02:29:34,479
f2bq f2bq pop some questions up

3168
02:29:37,590 --> 02:29:36,640
we'll do a quick ama i'll give you my

3169
02:29:40,070 --> 02:29:37,600
thoughts about uh

3170
02:29:40,950 --> 02:29:40,080
my conversation with evonne too as well

3171
02:29:42,710 --> 02:29:40,960
all right

3172
02:29:44,389 --> 02:29:42,720
follow me on twitter at jchurchradio

3173
02:29:46,550 --> 02:29:44,399
hashtag f2bq

3174
02:29:47,429 --> 02:29:46,560
and i'll answer some questions uh for

3175
02:29:51,190 --> 02:29:47,439
the uh

3176
02:29:53,590 --> 02:29:51,200
for the last segment i don't have phones

3177
02:29:54,550 --> 02:29:53,600
here and you are listening to my boy

3178
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jimmy church

3179
02:30:04,780 --> 02:30:02,070
despite popular opinion reading a book

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3256
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[Music]

3257
02:33:35,750 --> 02:33:33,510
welcome back paint to black i'm your

3258
02:33:36,389 --> 02:33:35,760
host jimmy church all right i don't have

3259
02:33:39,429 --> 02:33:36,399
a phone

3260
02:33:42,550 --> 02:33:39,439
installed yet

3261
02:33:44,790 --> 02:33:42,560
uh i should have it up and running

3262
02:33:46,309 --> 02:33:44,800
tomorrow of course we got fader night

3263
02:33:48,550 --> 02:33:46,319
on thursday and i'll be good to go by

3264
02:33:50,790 --> 02:33:48,560
then but um

3265
02:33:51,590 --> 02:33:50,800
so right now i can't take phone calls uh

3266
02:33:53,910 --> 02:33:51,600
we've got one more

3267
02:33:54,630 --> 02:33:53,920
open to questions and if you want to

3268
02:33:57,750 --> 02:33:54,640
post some

3269
02:33:59,670 --> 02:33:57,760
up i will see what i can deal with and

3270
02:34:02,389 --> 02:33:59,680
i'm actually over on youtube

3271
02:34:03,750 --> 02:34:02,399
as well i've got youtube up and running

3272
02:34:06,630 --> 02:34:03,760
in front of me

3273
02:34:07,670 --> 02:34:06,640
and uh and i've got uh tweetdeck and

3274
02:34:10,790 --> 02:34:07,680
twitter

3275
02:34:12,309 --> 02:34:10,800
uh up and running as well and uh wow i'm

3276
02:34:13,670 --> 02:34:12,319
looking at my video on youtube that

3277
02:34:14,870 --> 02:34:13,680
looks pretty good that looks better than

3278
02:34:18,150 --> 02:34:14,880
the bunker

3279
02:34:21,510 --> 02:34:18,160
except

3280
02:34:24,710 --> 02:34:21,520
there's a lot of lights in here so okay

3281
02:34:28,150 --> 02:34:24,720
let's see i am over

3282
02:34:28,630 --> 02:34:28,160
on uh youtube really quick okay let's

3283
02:34:31,670 --> 02:34:28,640
see

3284
02:34:34,710 --> 02:34:31,680
who is up first uh

3285
02:34:38,550 --> 02:34:34,720
here okay let's see

3286
02:34:41,670 --> 02:34:38,560
jimmy do you believe

3287
02:34:46,710 --> 02:34:41,680
in reincarnation

3288
02:34:49,830 --> 02:34:46,720
i do for a lot of different reasons

3289
02:34:51,030 --> 02:34:49,840
um but reincarnation makes a lot of

3290
02:34:57,110 --> 02:34:51,040
sense

3291
02:35:00,309 --> 02:34:57,120
um but

3292
02:35:02,230 --> 02:35:00,319
look just look at if i i brought this up

3293
02:35:03,270 --> 02:35:02,240
last week or maybe two weeks ago on the

3294
02:35:06,630 --> 02:35:03,280
show

3295
02:35:09,110 --> 02:35:06,640
the dalai lama now the dalai lama is

3296
02:35:12,469 --> 02:35:09,120
starting to get up there in years

3297
02:35:13,190 --> 02:35:12,479
if you haven't looked into the dalai

3298
02:35:17,110 --> 02:35:13,200
lama and

3299
02:35:19,190 --> 02:35:17,120
how each uh the successors

3300
02:35:21,030 --> 02:35:19,200
of the dalai lamas have happened over

3301
02:35:22,230 --> 02:35:21,040
the years who becomes a dalai lama how

3302
02:35:25,590 --> 02:35:22,240
do you get that gig

3303
02:35:29,510 --> 02:35:25,600
what makes you so special well

3304
02:35:33,830 --> 02:35:29,520
it's reincarnation and

3305
02:35:36,070 --> 02:35:33,840
the the oh okay we're in a modern area

3306
02:35:39,990 --> 02:35:36,080
uh modern era of news

3307
02:35:42,950 --> 02:35:40,000
and the la the current dalai lama

3308
02:35:44,309 --> 02:35:42,960
when he was found after you know the

3309
02:35:47,670 --> 02:35:44,319
last dalai lama

3310
02:35:49,750 --> 02:35:47,680
left this earth um allegedly

3311
02:35:52,070 --> 02:35:49,760
well what i mean i mean did he leave is

3312
02:35:52,710 --> 02:35:52,080
that a soul what's going on with that

3313
02:35:55,349 --> 02:35:52,720
but

3314
02:35:57,349 --> 02:35:55,359
after his body gave out let's let's go

3315
02:36:01,270 --> 02:35:57,359
that let's go into that zone

3316
02:36:04,710 --> 02:36:01,280
and go and read about that and how

3317
02:36:09,190 --> 02:36:04,720
how he was found as a young boy

3318
02:36:12,630 --> 02:36:09,200
and his story it's it's incredible

3319
02:36:15,750 --> 02:36:12,640
and go and and read

3320
02:36:17,510 --> 02:36:15,760
the the accounts of reincarnation with

3321
02:36:19,830 --> 02:36:17,520
the current dalai lama go

3322
02:36:21,670 --> 02:36:19,840
go and check that out it's it's

3323
02:36:23,590 --> 02:36:21,680
incredible there's something to it now

3324
02:36:26,870 --> 02:36:23,600
there's that part of it

3325
02:36:30,150 --> 02:36:26,880
um i haven't

3326
02:36:33,190 --> 02:36:30,160
i don't know you know but

3327
02:36:35,429 --> 02:36:33,200
but i would assume that we're all

3328
02:36:38,389 --> 02:36:35,439
reincarnated

3329
02:36:40,389 --> 02:36:38,399
you know how much do we remember from a

3330
02:36:43,030 --> 02:36:40,399
past life i don't know

3331
02:36:44,550 --> 02:36:43,040
um i've had i don't have anything

3332
02:36:47,030 --> 02:36:44,560
sensational to report

3333
02:36:49,190 --> 02:36:47,040
about a past life with me anything that

3334
02:36:50,230 --> 02:36:49,200
i do or dream about or i think about in

3335
02:36:52,630 --> 02:36:50,240
the past

3336
02:36:55,110 --> 02:36:52,640
is is nothing sensational i wasn't king

3337
02:36:56,150 --> 02:36:55,120
arthur or i wasn't a pharaoh in egypt or

3338
02:36:59,190 --> 02:36:56,160
anything like that

3339
02:37:01,349 --> 02:36:59,200
it's just all boring stuff but but the

3340
02:37:04,710 --> 02:37:01,359
recollections are there

3341
02:37:06,070 --> 02:37:04,720
and if you've ever had a dog and if

3342
02:37:09,750 --> 02:37:06,080
you're a dog owner

3343
02:37:10,389 --> 02:37:09,760
um and you uh you look deep in the eyes

3344
02:37:13,910 --> 02:37:10,399
of your pet

3345
02:37:15,030 --> 02:37:13,920
you know they know what's going on

3346
02:37:18,710 --> 02:37:15,040
there's something

3347
02:37:19,349 --> 02:37:18,720
there man reincarnation is is is a real

3348
02:37:22,550 --> 02:37:19,359
thing i

3349
02:37:25,990 --> 02:37:22,560
i i i yes okay so there's

3350
02:37:28,230 --> 02:37:26,000
there's that answer let's see

3351
02:37:29,349 --> 02:37:28,240
um okay let's jump over to twitter let's

3352
02:37:34,150 --> 02:37:29,359
see what's in

3353
02:37:39,429 --> 02:37:37,510
what was my coolest moment in

3354
02:37:41,510 --> 02:37:39,439
the investigation this weekend i talked

3355
02:37:43,510 --> 02:37:41,520
about it at in the beginning of the show

3356
02:37:44,710 --> 02:37:43,520
okay well actually there was a few

3357
02:37:47,670 --> 02:37:44,720
moments we did two

3358
02:37:49,510 --> 02:37:47,680
st sessions one with kristin and uh one

3359
02:37:52,870 --> 02:37:49,520
with uh susan

3360
02:37:55,670 --> 02:37:52,880
and uh but this is what

3361
02:37:56,309 --> 02:37:55,680
is interesting with both of those

3362
02:37:59,510 --> 02:37:56,319
sessions

3363
02:38:07,830 --> 02:38:03,590
the the conversations

3364
02:38:11,590 --> 02:38:07,840
and the contact and the verbiage

3365
02:38:13,670 --> 02:38:11,600
was all criminal was all criminal

3366
02:38:15,910 --> 02:38:13,680
it was weird man we weren't and i

3367
02:38:19,110 --> 02:38:15,920
mentioned this we weren't talking about

3368
02:38:22,630 --> 02:38:19,120
uh sports or music or

3369
02:38:23,830 --> 02:38:22,640
or cooking it was just all this criminal

3370
02:38:28,469 --> 02:38:23,840
activity

3371
02:38:30,710 --> 02:38:28,479
and it was it was strange it was just

3372
02:38:31,990 --> 02:38:30,720
all criminal and the names and the

3373
02:38:33,270 --> 02:38:32,000
things and there were a couple of

3374
02:38:36,469 --> 02:38:33,280
moments that were just

3375
02:38:37,750 --> 02:38:36,479
astounding and and great but going back

3376
02:38:42,790 --> 02:38:37,760
to kristin's

3377
02:38:44,550 --> 02:38:42,800
um she described and we were all

3378
02:38:47,590 --> 02:38:44,560
thinking the same things as as

3379
02:38:49,590 --> 02:38:47,600
she was going through this she described

3380
02:38:54,469 --> 02:38:49,600
a crime scene

3381
02:38:57,349 --> 02:38:54,479
she talked about it was female a woman

3382
02:38:58,469 --> 02:38:57,359
there was a chevrolet and next to a lake

3383
02:39:01,910 --> 02:38:58,479
and this thing

3384
02:39:04,389 --> 02:39:01,920
now but i don't know if it was something

3385
02:39:05,590 --> 02:39:04,399
from the past if it was an unsolved

3386
02:39:09,590 --> 02:39:05,600
crime

3387
02:39:13,349 --> 02:39:09,600
if it was somebody that was kidnapped if

3388
02:39:14,870 --> 02:39:13,359
if it ended dark that we didn't get or

3389
02:39:16,550 --> 02:39:14,880
was this something that was currently

3390
02:39:19,590 --> 02:39:16,560
happening right now

3391
02:39:22,950 --> 02:39:19,600
right something that was in real time

3392
02:39:25,429 --> 02:39:22,960
i don't know but it was uh it was a

3393
02:39:26,230 --> 02:39:25,439
weird you know the theater of the mind

3394
02:39:28,950 --> 02:39:26,240
as as

3395
02:39:30,469 --> 02:39:28,960
these st sessions are going down and

3396
02:39:33,910 --> 02:39:30,479
you're able to paint this

3397
02:39:37,349 --> 02:39:33,920
excuse me i got the hiccups the uh

3398
02:39:37,750 --> 02:39:37,359
uh the images of what was going on that

3399
02:39:41,349 --> 02:39:37,760
was

3400
02:39:44,230 --> 02:39:41,359
absolutely incredible but i got my first

3401
02:39:51,670 --> 02:39:48,469
never uh the other uh

3402
02:39:53,990 --> 02:39:51,680
uh disembodied voice that i heard on the

3403
02:39:54,790 --> 02:39:54,000
queen mary that was out loud we heard it

3404
02:39:58,469 --> 02:39:54,800
in the room

3405
02:40:01,110 --> 02:39:58,479
and that wasn't an evp so

3406
02:40:02,950 --> 02:40:01,120
i got my first evp and we were recording

3407
02:40:03,510 --> 02:40:02,960
all of this was done live on the air and

3408
02:40:06,550 --> 02:40:03,520
so

3409
02:40:07,750 --> 02:40:06,560
if you saw it happen you know how cool

3410
02:40:11,510 --> 02:40:07,760
it was but

3411
02:40:12,550 --> 02:40:11,520
um brandon was a little digital recorder

3412
02:40:16,070 --> 02:40:12,560
and he's

3413
02:40:17,910 --> 02:40:16,080
uh recording i'm asking questions

3414
02:40:20,070 --> 02:40:17,920
and we were going into these moments of

3415
02:40:23,030 --> 02:40:20,080
silence and we were down

3416
02:40:23,590 --> 02:40:23,040
in the basement in this long tunnel uh

3417
02:40:27,670 --> 02:40:23,600
with the

3418
02:40:30,710 --> 02:40:27,680
evidence uh uh uh that's stored in there

3419
02:40:32,150 --> 02:40:30,720
well anyway um

3420
02:40:34,230 --> 02:40:32,160
he kept playing it back and there's

3421
02:40:38,070 --> 02:40:34,240
nothing there you know it's the silences

3422
02:40:40,469 --> 02:40:38,080
you know but boom right there

3423
02:40:43,349 --> 02:40:40,479
right there and this is this is what was

3424
02:40:45,510 --> 02:40:43,359
so crazy about that

3425
02:40:46,469 --> 02:40:45,520
is i didn't have headphones on i didn't

3426
02:40:48,870 --> 02:40:46,479
have anything

3427
02:40:49,750 --> 02:40:48,880
none of us did uh we're just down there

3428
02:40:52,950 --> 02:40:49,760
with the uh

3429
02:40:56,309 --> 02:40:52,960
with the camera crew um and

3430
02:40:57,990 --> 02:40:56,319
in this tunnel which had i i don't think

3431
02:40:59,670 --> 02:40:58,000
there was any windows there wasn't a

3432
02:41:01,910 --> 02:40:59,680
back door there was only the

3433
02:41:03,030 --> 02:41:01,920
door the entrance which was quite a

3434
02:41:06,070 --> 02:41:03,040
distance away

3435
02:41:09,110 --> 02:41:06,080
but we're in a tunnel in the basement

3436
02:41:10,950 --> 02:41:09,120
and it's quiet

3437
02:41:12,550 --> 02:41:10,960
i mean you're underground you know and

3438
02:41:15,030 --> 02:41:12,560
there's there's nothing there there's

3439
02:41:17,670 --> 02:41:15,040
nothing going on so when i'm asking

3440
02:41:18,950 --> 02:41:17,680
these questions and we go to silence

3441
02:41:21,030 --> 02:41:18,960
you can hear a pinterest i mean there

3442
02:41:24,150 --> 02:41:21,040
was you know you could hear

3443
02:41:25,190 --> 02:41:24,160
nothing so he plays it back and it's

3444
02:41:28,550 --> 02:41:25,200
blank blank black

3445
02:41:31,910 --> 02:41:28,560
and there it was right there and

3446
02:41:33,910 --> 02:41:31,920
it did it you know i now i haven't

3447
02:41:36,870 --> 02:41:33,920
listened to the analysis

3448
02:41:39,830 --> 02:41:36,880
there was a a a sentence and then a

3449
02:41:43,110 --> 02:41:39,840
slight pause and then a continuation

3450
02:41:44,790 --> 02:41:43,120
of the sentence but uh but you can

3451
02:41:48,230 --> 02:41:44,800
clearly hear it it was

3452
02:41:51,349 --> 02:41:48,240
fascinating knowing that

3453
02:41:55,030 --> 02:41:51,359
it was recorded in silence yeah

3454
02:41:59,110 --> 02:41:55,040
yeah that was really really cool um

3455
02:42:01,269 --> 02:41:59,120
let's see jimmy imagine

3456
02:42:03,030 --> 02:42:01,279
this from sarah jimmy imagine that you

3457
02:42:06,710 --> 02:42:03,040
are the hybrid

3458
02:42:12,309 --> 02:42:06,720
birth child of two animals

3459
02:42:16,870 --> 02:42:12,319
who is your mom and papa

3460
02:42:18,710 --> 02:42:16,880
oh man yeah that's uh that's a good one

3461
02:42:22,150 --> 02:42:18,720
i would say uh

3462
02:42:28,550 --> 02:42:25,190
probably sloth and

3463
02:42:30,309 --> 02:42:28,560
and and rat

3464
02:42:31,990 --> 02:42:30,319
it wouldn't be anything cool try scale

3465
02:42:35,030 --> 02:42:32,000
just said jimmy where do you keep

3466
02:42:38,309 --> 02:42:35,040
all of the cases for your guitars

3467
02:42:41,510 --> 02:42:38,319
um i'm looking at a lot

3468
02:42:43,830 --> 02:42:41,520
right over here and uh

3469
02:42:45,750 --> 02:42:43,840
and what you want to see them i don't

3470
02:43:02,389 --> 02:42:45,760
even know if this

3471
02:43:13,830 --> 02:43:09,110
see so don't worry about what's in here

3472
02:43:18,389 --> 02:43:15,670
but uh yeah there's there's a whole

3473
02:43:21,030 --> 02:43:18,399
stack of cases

3474
02:43:21,510 --> 02:43:21,040
right there hard shell too those are

3475
02:43:24,790 --> 02:43:21,520
some

3476
02:43:27,590 --> 02:43:24,800
softbacks so don't you

3477
02:43:28,630 --> 02:43:27,600
worry the guitars are here i got to

3478
02:43:30,309 --> 02:43:28,640
figure it out i don't know

3479
02:43:32,230 --> 02:43:30,319
if i'm going to put the guitars in back

3480
02:43:34,389 --> 02:43:32,240
of me but i've got

3481
02:43:37,429 --> 02:43:34,399
all these wonderful walls in front of me

3482
02:43:39,590 --> 02:43:37,439
too as well and i can just go

3483
02:43:41,030 --> 02:43:39,600
and and go this direction i i i kind of

3484
02:43:43,269 --> 02:43:41,040
like the banner

3485
02:43:44,870 --> 02:43:43,279
uh back there that's that's pretty cool

3486
02:43:46,790 --> 02:43:44,880
so i don't know

3487
02:43:48,950 --> 02:43:46,800
i don't know we'll figure something out

3488
02:43:51,830 --> 02:43:48,960
okay let's see

3489
02:43:53,670 --> 02:43:51,840
uh let's go back to uh youtube let's see

3490
02:43:57,190 --> 02:43:53,680
what's happening on youtube

3491
02:44:04,469 --> 02:44:00,950
and youtube just just

3492
02:44:08,150 --> 02:44:04,479
passes by so fast uh

3493
02:44:11,190 --> 02:44:08,160
to to that's a big studio yes

3494
02:44:12,070 --> 02:44:11,200
it is the walls behind me you think so

3495
02:44:15,670 --> 02:44:12,080
you think that's

3496
02:44:18,870 --> 02:44:15,680
uh i think that's what i should do

3497
02:44:21,429 --> 02:44:18,880
okay jimmy has done

3498
02:44:23,630 --> 02:44:21,439
a mothman show before okay no i'm

3499
02:44:25,830 --> 02:44:23,640
looking for

3500
02:44:28,230 --> 02:44:25,840
questions

3501
02:44:35,750 --> 02:44:28,240
i'm looking for a question i can't read

3502
02:44:35,760 --> 02:44:39,030
oh okay

3503
02:44:45,269 --> 02:44:42,230
what's your thoughts about the omua uh

3504
02:44:48,870 --> 02:44:45,279
paper basically debunking

3505
02:44:50,790 --> 02:44:48,880
avi lobes um now i heard about this i

3506
02:44:54,070 --> 02:44:50,800
haven't read it yet

3507
02:44:57,269 --> 02:44:54,080
um so i can't really make

3508
02:44:59,830 --> 02:44:57,279
a comment on that um

3509
02:45:01,750 --> 02:44:59,840
about the the paper specifically but

3510
02:45:04,309 --> 02:45:01,760
look

3511
02:45:05,269 --> 02:45:04,319
avi loeb and i meant to bring this up

3512
02:45:08,469 --> 02:45:05,279
tonight with uh

3513
02:45:11,510 --> 02:45:08,479
yvonne smith avilobe harvard

3514
02:45:13,670 --> 02:45:11,520
john mack harvard coincidence

3515
02:45:15,269 --> 02:45:13,680
i don't think so and i think it's really

3516
02:45:18,389 --> 02:45:15,279
cool

3517
02:45:23,349 --> 02:45:18,399
that harvard is tenuring

3518
02:45:26,150 --> 02:45:23,359
um uh scientists and researchers

3519
02:45:27,190 --> 02:45:26,160
that have an open mind you have to have

3520
02:45:29,750 --> 02:45:27,200
an open mind

3521
02:45:30,469 --> 02:45:29,760
if you just want to close down look it's

3522
02:45:34,870 --> 02:45:30,479
too

3523
02:45:38,230 --> 02:45:34,880
easy to debunk avilobe

3524
02:45:41,349 --> 02:45:38,240
it's it's just it's just way too easy um

3525
02:45:44,870 --> 02:45:41,359
i was talking to somebody last week um

3526
02:45:47,910 --> 02:45:44,880
off of the air and

3527
02:45:49,429 --> 02:45:47,920
um and this person said look man it was

3528
02:45:52,870 --> 02:45:49,439
a rock

3529
02:45:55,990 --> 02:45:52,880
it's a piece of an asteroid

3530
02:46:00,309 --> 02:45:56,000
it was just a rock well okay is

3531
02:46:02,950 --> 02:46:00,319
that is that the best that you've got

3532
02:46:04,230 --> 02:46:02,960
is that the message you can't say these

3533
02:46:06,230 --> 02:46:04,240
things

3534
02:46:07,990 --> 02:46:06,240
you need to back it up you can't be like

3535
02:46:11,510 --> 02:46:08,000
the michael shermer

3536
02:46:13,110 --> 02:46:11,520
skeptical debunker uh uh

3537
02:46:15,190 --> 02:46:13,120
person you can't do that you can't just

3538
02:46:18,309 --> 02:46:15,200
go it's just a rock

3539
02:46:21,750 --> 02:46:18,319
how do you know how

3540
02:46:26,150 --> 02:46:21,760
do you know

3541
02:46:30,150 --> 02:46:26,160
now does xavi loeb know

3542
02:46:33,590 --> 02:46:30,160
no he's looking at the data

3543
02:46:37,030 --> 02:46:33,600
and coming up with a possible

3544
02:46:41,110 --> 02:46:37,040
answer to this because of the data

3545
02:46:42,870 --> 02:46:41,120
that's it nobody photographed it nobody

3546
02:46:45,990 --> 02:46:42,880
saw it it was already

3547
02:46:49,429 --> 02:46:46,000
gone it was millions of miles away

3548
02:46:53,190 --> 02:46:49,439
um when uh uh

3549
02:46:56,469 --> 02:46:53,200
uh omomoa in

3550
02:46:56,790 --> 02:46:56,479
in hawaii and and the radar telescopes

3551
02:46:59,030 --> 02:46:56,800
there

3552
02:47:00,710 --> 02:46:59,040
picked up on it it was already gone it

3553
02:47:02,070 --> 02:47:00,720
was a photograph coming in it was a

3554
02:47:03,750 --> 02:47:02,080
photograph going around the sun it

3555
02:47:05,590 --> 02:47:03,760
wasn't photographed next to the earth it

3556
02:47:08,950 --> 02:47:05,600
wasn't it was already gone

3557
02:47:12,389 --> 02:47:08,960
so therefore you know nothing

3558
02:47:14,150 --> 02:47:12,399
nothing so avi chose to go and look at

3559
02:47:17,750 --> 02:47:14,160
the data

3560
02:47:20,790 --> 02:47:17,760
two things stand out for me and i

3561
02:47:25,510 --> 02:47:20,800
can't get it out of my mind

3562
02:47:28,870 --> 02:47:25,520
number one that thing turned

3563
02:47:32,630 --> 02:47:28,880
turned inside of our solar system

3564
02:47:36,790 --> 02:47:32,640
took a turn okay

3565
02:47:39,830 --> 02:47:36,800
not affected by the gravity of the sun

3566
02:47:41,110 --> 02:47:39,840
that's interesting what what's going on

3567
02:47:43,590 --> 02:47:41,120
here didn't care

3568
02:47:44,710 --> 02:47:43,600
there wasn't anything in this solar

3569
02:47:47,590 --> 02:47:44,720
system of ours

3570
02:47:48,710 --> 02:47:47,600
jupiter that was going to rope this

3571
02:47:51,990 --> 02:47:48,720
thing in

3572
02:47:52,630 --> 02:47:52,000
and and keep it as a moon and you know

3573
02:47:56,230 --> 02:47:52,640
jupiter

3574
02:47:59,110 --> 02:47:56,240
uh some asteroid orbiting the sun

3575
02:48:00,630 --> 02:47:59,120
it wasn't captured it left it took a

3576
02:48:03,670 --> 02:48:00,640
turn and left

3577
02:48:05,110 --> 02:48:03,680
number that's number one okay a rock's

3578
02:48:08,230 --> 02:48:05,120
not going to do that

3579
02:48:11,590 --> 02:48:08,240
that's number one number two it

3580
02:48:16,630 --> 02:48:11,600
hit the gas it

3581
02:48:22,790 --> 02:48:16,640
increased speed on its own

3582
02:48:30,550 --> 02:48:27,110
maybe rocks do that right

3583
02:48:34,389 --> 02:48:30,560
maybe maybe but avi's basing

3584
02:48:36,950 --> 02:48:34,399
everything on the data as

3585
02:48:37,429 --> 02:48:36,960
as it has been collected and he's looked

3586
02:48:40,309 --> 02:48:37,439
at it

3587
02:48:41,590 --> 02:48:40,319
and he's trying to figure this out and

3588
02:48:43,590 --> 02:48:41,600
to turn around and say

3589
02:48:44,950 --> 02:48:43,600
it's just a rock or whatever i don't

3590
02:48:45,830 --> 02:48:44,960
know if that's what it says in this

3591
02:48:49,269 --> 02:48:45,840
paper

3592
02:48:52,469 --> 02:48:49,279
but you can't it's it's too easy

3593
02:48:56,150 --> 02:48:52,479
uh to to debunk

3594
02:48:58,790 --> 02:48:56,160
because nobody knows so the debunkers

3595
02:48:59,349 --> 02:48:58,800
they're gonna be there avi is right here

3596
02:49:10,950 --> 02:48:59,359
and

3597
02:49:14,150 --> 02:49:10,960
life out there in the universe

3598
02:49:18,150 --> 02:49:14,160
uh that's not all of obby's world

3599
02:49:21,830 --> 02:49:18,160
avi is um an astronomer

3600
02:49:24,870 --> 02:49:21,840
and he is looking at all kinds of things

3601
02:49:27,110 --> 02:49:24,880
uh with uh the origins of the universe

3602
02:49:30,389 --> 02:49:27,120
the expansion of the universe and

3603
02:49:32,550 --> 02:49:30,399
and and dark energy and and dark matter

3604
02:49:35,670 --> 02:49:32,560
he's looking at lots of different things

3605
02:49:38,870 --> 02:49:35,680
all at the same time um avi is a

3606
02:49:42,309 --> 02:49:38,880
very interesting guy so

3607
02:49:50,550 --> 02:49:45,670
two let's go back to twitter

3608
02:49:55,510 --> 02:49:53,670
will i be posting the video yes i

3609
02:49:56,710 --> 02:49:55,520
explained to everybody at the opening of

3610
02:49:58,150 --> 02:49:56,720
the show tonight you're talking about

3611
02:50:01,510 --> 02:49:58,160
paul's video of the

3612
02:50:05,269 --> 02:50:01,520
tr-3b that was shot in odessa texas

3613
02:50:07,510 --> 02:50:05,279
um i i just got buried this weekend

3614
02:50:09,190 --> 02:50:07,520
i just got buried and i worked all day

3615
02:50:13,190 --> 02:50:09,200
friday i started on the video

3616
02:50:16,469 --> 02:50:13,200
on friday i got uh uh everything

3617
02:50:19,990 --> 02:50:16,479
uh that i was dealing with with uh

3618
02:50:22,150 --> 02:50:20,000
the ghost investigation on saturday

3619
02:50:23,750 --> 02:50:22,160
sunday i had to tear down the studio

3620
02:50:26,070 --> 02:50:23,760
today i had to put the studio back

3621
02:50:29,990 --> 02:50:26,080
together but i'll get on the video

3622
02:50:34,150 --> 02:50:30,000
and i'll finish it it has been started

3623
02:50:36,550 --> 02:50:34,160
okay i am working on it

3624
02:50:38,230 --> 02:50:36,560
let's see how much time do i have i got

3625
02:50:39,670 --> 02:50:38,240
time for a couple more questions let's

3626
02:50:43,030 --> 02:50:39,680
see

3627
02:50:44,710 --> 02:50:43,040
uh prefer this the guitars and the

3628
02:50:48,830 --> 02:50:44,720
skulls

3629
02:50:56,469 --> 02:50:52,630
uh

3630
02:50:59,990 --> 02:50:56,479
membership you said you would give me

3631
02:51:03,590 --> 02:51:00,000
uh we sent out the passwords

3632
02:51:05,670 --> 02:51:03,600
to all of the membership winners

3633
02:51:07,590 --> 02:51:05,680
uh tim if you didn't receive the

3634
02:51:10,150 --> 02:51:07,600
password everything was out there

3635
02:51:12,230 --> 02:51:10,160
and was confirmed i have no idea check

3636
02:51:15,670 --> 02:51:12,240
your spam folder go back to those dates

3637
02:51:19,269 --> 02:51:15,680
look at it we sent out the codes

3638
02:51:21,990 --> 02:51:19,279
the next day so you got it

3639
02:51:23,269 --> 02:51:22,000
you just didn't see it all right tim go

3640
02:51:25,990 --> 02:51:23,279
and look for it

3641
02:51:27,269 --> 02:51:26,000
um i would love to have you be an

3642
02:51:30,070 --> 02:51:27,279
official fate or not

3643
02:51:31,750 --> 02:51:30,080
so you've been sent the codes and uh if

3644
02:51:31,990 --> 02:51:31,760
you want to reach out to drew send him

3645
02:51:35,190 --> 02:51:32,000
your

3646
02:51:38,150 --> 02:51:35,200
email and and have him

3647
02:51:39,349 --> 02:51:38,160
resend the email to you we can certainly

3648
02:51:41,670 --> 02:51:39,359
get that done for you

3649
02:51:42,790 --> 02:51:41,680
all right let's see jimmy if you this

3650
02:51:46,150 --> 02:51:42,800
from third

3651
02:51:46,710 --> 02:51:46,160
uh jimmy if you could be any famous

3652
02:51:49,269 --> 02:51:46,720
person

3653
02:51:50,630 --> 02:51:49,279
in history alive or dead for a day who

3654
02:51:54,389 --> 02:51:50,640
would it be

3655
02:51:57,030 --> 02:51:54,399
hmm huh

3656
02:51:59,030 --> 02:51:57,040
i don't know i'm really giving that any

3657
02:52:05,030 --> 02:51:59,040
thought

3658
02:52:12,710 --> 02:52:08,230
you know honestly

3659
02:52:16,230 --> 02:52:12,720
for for shizzle neil armstrong

3660
02:52:17,830 --> 02:52:16,240
i want to be neil armstrong the cashier

3661
02:52:20,309 --> 02:52:17,840
at starbucks asked me

3662
02:52:22,150 --> 02:52:20,319
this the other day while i was waiting

3663
02:52:25,670 --> 02:52:22,160
on my order and i was

3664
02:52:28,070 --> 02:52:25,680
totally stumped i'm going neil armstrong

3665
02:52:30,710 --> 02:52:28,080
stepping on the moon that that would be

3666
02:52:34,389 --> 02:52:30,720
uh that would be pretty cool

3667
02:52:38,790 --> 02:52:34,399
uh what was jordan rita's favorite

3668
02:52:42,070 --> 02:52:38,800
meal over the weekend oh

3669
02:52:45,429 --> 02:52:42,080
man oh we um

3670
02:52:48,790 --> 02:52:45,439
we made a deep dish pizza we have a

3671
02:52:50,870 --> 02:52:48,800
new chicago deep dish pizza pan

3672
02:52:53,590 --> 02:52:50,880
and we made a deep dish pizza it's

3673
02:52:57,030 --> 02:52:53,600
posted um on my facebook page

3674
02:53:00,389 --> 02:52:57,040
absolutely incredible incredible

3675
02:53:02,070 --> 02:53:00,399
incredible all right let's see man i'm

3676
02:53:06,950 --> 02:53:02,080
out of time

3677
02:53:14,870 --> 02:53:10,389
i don't know what that means corey

3678
02:53:17,830 --> 02:53:14,880
and i just don't know what that means

3679
02:53:19,110 --> 02:53:17,840
uh let's see not j church radio not

3680
02:53:22,309 --> 02:53:19,120
being considered as an

3681
02:53:27,190 --> 02:53:22,319
experiencer but because we know

3682
02:53:29,750 --> 02:53:27,200
uh wtf we know is fact that we need

3683
02:53:32,790 --> 02:53:29,760
an identifier tag also yeah which would

3684
02:53:51,830 --> 02:53:32,800
allow us all to be more comfortable

3685
02:53:59,910 --> 02:53:56,309
man something's not quite right

3686
02:54:01,510 --> 02:53:59,920
here and they said well okay so you know

3687
02:54:03,349 --> 02:54:01,520
what uh

3688
02:54:04,950 --> 02:54:03,359
uh we've had our eye on you for quite

3689
02:54:06,389 --> 02:54:04,960
some time and we just want to let you

3690
02:54:09,429 --> 02:54:06,399
know i

3691
02:54:11,349 --> 02:54:09,439
i'm a hybrid that would be

3692
02:54:13,750 --> 02:54:11,359
the video that i was talking about

3693
02:54:17,910 --> 02:54:13,760
somebody posted it

3694
02:54:22,790 --> 02:54:17,920
uh with uh the russian lady whose eyes

3695
02:54:26,070 --> 02:54:22,800
her irises blinked sideways

3696
02:54:29,110 --> 02:54:26,080
and uh i didn't go and chase that down

3697
02:54:32,230 --> 02:54:29,120
so video link um with

3698
02:54:34,309 --> 02:54:32,240
this lady's name in it and

3699
02:54:35,510 --> 02:54:34,319
a little more data i didn't follow up on

3700
02:54:38,790 --> 02:54:35,520
it uh that was

3701
02:54:42,870 --> 02:54:38,800
last week but is

3702
02:54:45,429 --> 02:54:42,880
that is that an example

3703
02:54:45,990 --> 02:54:45,439
right is that a human hybrid that was

3704
02:54:48,950 --> 02:54:46,000
pretty

3705
02:54:49,190 --> 02:54:48,960
when um uh let me say this really quick

3706
02:54:53,269 --> 02:54:49,200
in

3707
02:54:54,150 --> 02:54:53,279
were a couple of pretty strange videos

3708
02:54:57,269 --> 02:54:54,160
that popped up

3709
02:55:00,389 --> 02:54:57,279
over the years one is

3710
02:55:01,590 --> 02:55:00,399
the video of obama i think it's obama

3711
02:55:04,070 --> 02:55:01,600
doing a press conference

3712
02:55:05,510 --> 02:55:04,080
and or speaking somewhere but the camera

3713
02:55:08,870 --> 02:55:05,520
pans out to the audience

3714
02:55:12,070 --> 02:55:08,880
and one of his secret service agents

3715
02:55:15,110 --> 02:55:12,080
looks like he shapeshifts

3716
02:55:15,750 --> 02:55:15,120
now i've looked at that video so much

3717
02:55:18,630 --> 02:55:15,760
okay

3718
02:55:20,150 --> 02:55:18,640
i don't think it's cg i don't think it's

3719
02:55:23,190 --> 02:55:20,160
computer generated

3720
02:55:26,469 --> 02:55:23,200
um uh i think that

3721
02:55:30,070 --> 02:55:26,479
what happens in this video

3722
02:55:31,590 --> 02:55:30,080
is it's not computer generated i think

3723
02:55:34,710 --> 02:55:31,600
the video is authentic

3724
02:55:38,389 --> 02:55:34,720
question is is he shape-shifting

3725
02:55:39,750 --> 02:55:38,399
or is it just some digital artifact with

3726
02:55:42,389 --> 02:55:39,760
the lights and

3727
02:55:43,349 --> 02:55:42,399
and the sensors on the camera and how

3728
02:55:45,110 --> 02:55:43,359
you just saw it

3729
02:55:47,750 --> 02:55:45,120
you know the pixels just got jumbled for

3730
02:55:50,710 --> 02:55:47,760
a second and then realigned

3731
02:55:51,510 --> 02:55:50,720
so he started off human did this little

3732
02:55:54,309 --> 02:55:51,520
thing you know

3733
02:55:56,389 --> 02:55:54,319
some errors in the video and then it

3734
02:55:59,830 --> 02:55:56,399
comes back and it's correct and

3735
02:56:03,030 --> 02:55:59,840
and he's there is it that possible right

3736
02:56:04,469 --> 02:56:03,040
there um but that video is fascinating

3737
02:56:06,150 --> 02:56:04,479
it's fascinating i think it's an

3738
02:56:07,429 --> 02:56:06,160
authentic video i just don't know if

3739
02:56:10,550 --> 02:56:07,439
it's a

3740
02:56:11,429 --> 02:56:10,560
shape-shifting reptilian on the secret

3741
02:56:15,190 --> 02:56:11,439
service

3742
02:56:19,429 --> 02:56:15,200
um but then there was the video

3743
02:56:21,429 --> 02:56:19,439
of zuckerberg blinking

3744
02:56:23,269 --> 02:56:21,439
with the reptilian eyes and and the

3745
02:56:26,070 --> 02:56:23,279
thing and i went back and i looked at

3746
02:56:28,309 --> 02:56:26,080
that and that

3747
02:56:29,190 --> 02:56:28,319
that was some kind of artifact in the

3748
02:56:32,469 --> 02:56:29,200
video

3749
02:56:35,990 --> 02:56:32,479
i would love to believe that uh that

3750
02:56:39,590 --> 02:56:36,000
zuckerberg is a reptilian shape-shifting

3751
02:56:41,750 --> 02:56:39,600
uh crazy illuminati overlord

3752
02:56:43,030 --> 02:56:41,760
all right he he looks like he could be

3753
02:56:46,150 --> 02:56:43,040
all of that

3754
02:56:46,950 --> 02:56:46,160
but the blinking and and so it was an

3755
02:56:48,870 --> 02:56:46,960
artifact

3756
02:56:50,230 --> 02:56:48,880
that was something that was happening in

3757
02:56:54,230 --> 02:56:50,240
in the video

3758
02:56:55,830 --> 02:56:54,240
i saw a newscaster that uh

3759
02:56:57,510 --> 02:56:55,840
was and it's something to do with the

3760
02:57:00,309 --> 02:56:57,520
video and the way it's picked up

3761
02:57:01,190 --> 02:57:00,319
because i saw the same thing going on uh

3762
02:57:03,510 --> 02:57:01,200
with the

3763
02:57:06,309 --> 02:57:03,520
female newscaster and her blinking

3764
02:57:09,510 --> 02:57:06,319
looking like it was there she is

3765
02:57:13,670 --> 02:57:09,520
right there okay what's her name

3766
02:57:20,309 --> 02:57:16,950
look at that yeah that's something

3767
02:57:23,910 --> 02:57:20,319
you should post the whole video kaz

3768
02:57:26,550 --> 02:57:23,920
that video is crazy and it's real

3769
02:57:27,269 --> 02:57:26,560
it's some kind of muscle control and

3770
02:57:31,110 --> 02:57:27,279
then i

3771
02:57:34,790 --> 02:57:31,120
read uh somewhere last week

3772
02:57:37,670 --> 02:57:34,800
um that this is not

3773
02:57:38,469 --> 02:57:37,680
that abnormal the muscle control on the

3774
02:57:41,750 --> 02:57:38,479
iris

3775
02:57:43,670 --> 02:57:41,760
that uh yeah so

3776
02:57:44,950 --> 02:57:43,680
zuck was on the blank yeah that was

3777
02:57:46,550 --> 02:57:44,960
that's a pretty good video

3778
02:57:48,309 --> 02:57:46,560
okay all right let me see let's get back

3779
02:57:51,750 --> 02:57:48,319
to the questions uh

3780
02:57:58,710 --> 02:57:51,760
one more before we go i got one minute

3781
02:58:03,590 --> 02:58:01,670
two two two before i run out of time i

3782
02:58:06,870 --> 02:58:03,600
want to get one more good question let's

3783
02:58:08,150 --> 02:58:06,880
grab something from youtube and then i'm

3784
02:58:11,190 --> 02:58:08,160
gonna get out of here man

3785
02:58:15,510 --> 02:58:11,200
i am gonna face planet tonight i

3786
02:58:17,190 --> 02:58:15,520
am exhausted let's see

3787
02:58:20,070 --> 02:58:17,200
do you think there's a connection this

3788
02:58:21,429 --> 02:58:20,080
is from mr barrett

3789
02:58:23,750 --> 02:58:21,439
do you think there's a connection

3790
02:58:25,590 --> 02:58:23,760
between deja vu and past

3791
02:58:27,110 --> 02:58:25,600
lives like maybe you've already lived

3792
02:58:30,389 --> 02:58:27,120
this life and are

3793
02:58:31,590 --> 02:58:30,399
um you know i've talked about deja vu so

3794
02:58:34,630 --> 02:58:31,600
much

3795
02:58:37,269 --> 02:58:34,640
but and i enjoy

3796
02:58:40,790 --> 02:58:37,279
deja vu my comments that i used to make

3797
02:58:44,469 --> 02:58:40,800
about deja vu when i was very young

3798
02:58:46,070 --> 02:58:44,479
is this is what i used to say i remember

3799
02:58:48,870 --> 02:58:46,080
these statements coming out of my mouth

3800
02:58:50,870 --> 02:58:48,880
when i was 9 10 11 years old and i ended

3801
02:58:51,510 --> 02:58:50,880
up repeating it year after year after

3802
02:58:55,910 --> 02:58:51,520
year

3803
02:58:59,670 --> 02:58:55,920
i felt like somebody had access

3804
02:59:03,429 --> 02:58:59,680
to my book of my life

3805
02:59:06,630 --> 02:59:03,439
and knew how things are

3806
02:59:08,469 --> 02:59:06,640
moving along and that how is it possible

3807
02:59:10,710 --> 02:59:08,479
that somebody

3808
02:59:11,590 --> 02:59:10,720
that that events could happen i'm

3809
02:59:13,670 --> 02:59:11,600
remembering them

3810
02:59:14,870 --> 02:59:13,680
it's happening in real time this is in

3811
02:59:17,670 --> 02:59:14,880
my imagination

3812
02:59:19,110 --> 02:59:17,680
and i could sit and listen to somebody's

3813
02:59:19,510 --> 02:59:19,120
sentence come out of their mouth and i

3814
02:59:21,910 --> 02:59:19,520
know

3815
02:59:23,269 --> 02:59:21,920
word for word what they are saying and i

3816
02:59:24,550 --> 02:59:23,279
know what the person next to him is

3817
02:59:27,670 --> 02:59:24,560
about to say in reply

3818
02:59:28,309 --> 02:59:27,680
or she and i play it out i just sit here

3819
02:59:31,830 --> 02:59:28,319
and

3820
02:59:35,429 --> 02:59:31,840
catch it all how does somebody know this

3821
02:59:38,630 --> 02:59:35,439
in advance you know so yes

3822
02:59:41,670 --> 02:59:38,640
i agree with that mr barrett i

3823
02:59:44,309 --> 02:59:41,680
i often feel that you know and

3824
02:59:45,910 --> 02:59:44,319
is there are they one in the same are

3825
02:59:47,830 --> 02:59:45,920
they both the same things and we're just

3826
02:59:49,590 --> 02:59:47,840
experiencing them differently

3827
02:59:51,590 --> 02:59:49,600
and they're totally related i totally

3828
02:59:56,070 --> 02:59:51,600
think that totally believe it

3829
02:59:59,830 --> 02:59:56,080
absolutely all right

3830
03:00:04,790 --> 03:00:02,309
does anybody remember remote control

3831
03:00:08,790 --> 03:00:04,800
president washington at disneyland

3832
03:00:11,830 --> 03:00:08,800
in 1970 no but i heard about that

3833
03:00:15,590 --> 03:00:11,840
i didn't get to disneyland until 1985.

3834
03:00:17,110 --> 03:00:15,600
and with that this is fade to black i

3835
03:00:19,830 --> 03:00:17,120
am your host jimmy church want to thank

3836
03:00:23,110 --> 03:00:19,840
yvonne smith for coming in tonight

3837
03:00:24,630 --> 03:00:23,120
great conversation as always beta

3838
03:00:26,630 --> 03:00:24,640
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3839
03:00:28,150 --> 03:00:26,640
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3840
03:00:30,070 --> 03:00:28,160
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3841
03:00:32,150 --> 03:00:30,080
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3842
03:00:32,870 --> 03:00:32,160
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3843
03:00:35,870 --> 03:00:32,880
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3844
03:00:37,269 --> 03:00:35,880
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3845
03:00:39,429 --> 03:00:37,279
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3846
03:00:41,190 --> 03:00:39,439
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3847
03:00:42,389 --> 03:00:41,200
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3848
03:00:45,030 --> 03:00:42,399
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3849
03:00:47,590 --> 03:00:45,040
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3850
03:00:48,870 --> 03:00:47,600
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3851
03:00:51,429 --> 03:00:48,880
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3852
03:00:53,030 --> 03:00:51,439
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3853
03:00:53,750 --> 03:00:53,040
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3854
03:00:55,349 --> 03:00:53,760
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3855
03:00:56,710 --> 03:00:55,359
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3856
03:00:58,070 --> 03:00:56,720
black of the game changer network i'm

3857
03:01:00,950 --> 03:00:58,080
your host jimmy church

3858
03:01:01,429 --> 03:01:00,960
tomorrow night kathleen martin right

3859
03:01:04,710 --> 03:01:01,439
here

3860
03:01:20,210 --> 03:01:04,720
until then everybody be safe

3861
03:01:50,780 --> 03:01:20,220
it's time to fade to black